ML Woods and Bush Knife - Initial Impressions.

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Hand Forged full tang 1095 High Carbon Steel
Overall size about: 9 1/2”
Blade Size about: 4 9/16”
Cutting Edge: about a 4 1/8”
Handle size about 4 3/4” with a slight palm swell
Spine Tang about: 1/8” thick
Blade width about: 1” wide at widest point.

Initial Impressions:

When was the last time you opened a knife, and simply said 'Wow'? I did with the ML knife that I just received from Matt at ML Knives.

I have learned a few things over the last few years, mostly listening to guys who know edges on this board and owning and selling a lot of knives, that the steel and the edge are the most important things to have perfect. The scales can be modified, the looks can be cleaned up some, but if the edge, steel, and geometry are off - you are likely stuck with it.

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I pulled the Woods and Bush knife out and immediately set upon inspecting the edge. Matt really got the convex correct on this. It is a slight taper all the way down the blade from spine to edge with an edge that was VERY sharp, clean and even.

I immediately when out in the garage and set to beating the knife up. I used hard wood in chest lever and hammer grip to see if the edge was sharp and would not roll. Great in both categories, and I hadn't even polished the edge yet.

I went back inside and checked out the handle. I loved the feel of it. I had him leave a lot of fatness on the scales while having him taper the front of the handles toward the ricasso.

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It is VERY beefy, very comforable, and yet nimble in the hand. It is very comfortable in the hammer grip - but easily comfortable in the chest lever and reverse grip.

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I was not as happy with the finish on the handle. I had Matt rework the handle from its original contour - so the rework could have caused some muddying of the look. I do think Matt could have taken a little more time with the hand sanding, so I set to the handle with 600 then 2000 grit sand paper. I cleaned it up, restained it (I liked golden oak a little more) and then sealed it with many thin thin coats of boiled linseed oil. The result seemed a little brighter and brought out the wood grain a little more - but this should be measured in little bits as the handle looked pretty darn good when I got it.

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After everything dried overnight I polished the handle by hand and set to comparing it to other knives I know are tried and true. I compared it to an Aurora style knife from BRKT, and a Koster Bushcraft. It cuts smoother and slices just slightly better than the Aurora due to the thinner stock, but it does not cut as well in wood as the Koster. However, I think the ML Knife would have over all more applications in the woods than the Scandi grind. In my experience Scandi's excell at wood cutting - but take getting used to in dressing game and the like.

This is to be expected and over all I was simply wowed by the edge retention (not a single chip, roll, or even dull spot) and I think it would work very well in hundreds of bushcraft applications.

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I talked to Matt again, who took my call personally and answered all the questions I had, and I was so impressed with his work and willingness to cater to what I want ("I can do whatever you like!") I ordered two more knives from him. Matching Kepharts for my brother and I.

Here is the kicker. All three knives will cost less than 400 dollars, without sheaths. How can you beat that?

The Woods and Bush knife 149 plus shipping with a sheath, and a little less without. I think this is a VERY good price for what you get.

TF
 
I always love seeing Matt's work.
Thanks for sharing, TF.
I am anxious to see how you dress that little beauty.
Interesting to know whether you will go with the "TF touch" or lean a little toward the nostalgic on this one.
 
Very nice, it is a stunning blade. My only concern with it would be the large distance from where your first finger would be to where the edge starts, but that is just me. Sounds like Matt is a great guy to deal with :thumbup:
 
Great review TF.

I'm trying to decide between Matt's WBN and Kep, and that will likely be my only tool purchase for 2010, so want as much info as possible.

Would it be asking too much to give your impressions of the Kep and how it compares/contrasts to the WBN, when you get the chance?

B
 
:thumbup: I picked up my Kephart yesterday, and I'm very impressed, too! For only being 1/8" stock, it's got a very solid feeling to it, and I've got to agree with TF about the grind, Matt's got his convex down pat!
 
Barber - when I saw the large guard and the ricasso - I thought the same thing - but in the hand - it isn't an issue. It looks TERRIBLE in the bare blade, and a little better in the scaled version - but (and I hate guards) it melts away in your hand. The guard is so rounded and smooth that is isn't much- I think the distance adds safety while not taking away from your usability.

I have no reason to blow smoke up Matt's ass - I just really like the knife.

TF
 
I just got the same knife and had him taper the scales from me too.

I could not be happier, I too ordered the kephart after, pretty funny if you ask me!!!!

I want to get his woods and hunting or maybe a camp/belt knife next.

Matt does such a good job on his knives I love em!!! And he is one hellava good guy to deal with.
 
There are a lot of good makers to be found nowdays but I feel Matt is one of the most consistant in regards to his edges and grinds.
I have never heard anyone be dissapointed with his knives straight outta the box, they all cut like lazers !!!
 
Big K - Crazy - I want a small knife for a set by him too. I think I may send him a pattern for a Kephart Companion and have him make it for me.

TF
 
Damn it Justin - THAT reminder cost me some money!

I ordered one of those too!

I forgot you posted it. Do you have one on the way?

TF
 
Hey Tal, would you say that Mat's covexing is similar to Laconico's? I like Rays edges a lot. He can make a thick knife cut like a thin razor.
 
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Wow, I didnt think there was much you havent tried. I have a big 8" one from Ray if you want to play with her for a bit. Just let me know brother, I will ship her off to you.
 
Sorry to ask, I'm sure, but what is a Kephart companion? :confused:

Here are the specs and info on the knife if you would like to order one.
Total knife length is about 6 7/8″
handle length about 3 3/4″
Blade a little over 3″ long
Spine tang thickness 3/32
Hand worked fish scaler spine.
hand rubbed clean satin finish only on this blade
Handle material (shown below, black walnut,) also can be made in tiger maple, ash, oak, cherry

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