MOD Razor Back? or BM Nimravus 141 Tanto?

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Hello,

I just had a few questions on a few knives. first of all, what are your guys opinion on these two knives?

Masters of Defense Razor Back

and the Benchmade Nimravus 141 Tanto.

between those two knives, which of those two would you guys pick?

any info on those knives would be great, durability, sharpness, reliable, etc. thanks

oh and also, is the razorback a full tang? i know the nimravus is, but if it isnt. has there been reports of it breaking?

are these knives legal in california?

also, i hear that the razorbacks blade is thick, is this a problem for every day cutting? how thick is the nimravus?
 
The Razorback is more of a stabbing implement than a cutting tool. The Nimravus will be more versatile. Just for that reason, I would rather have the Nimravus. Except if it were up to me, I would get the drop-point version. Also for versatility.

Both are very durable and reliable. Both can get sharp, however the geometry on the Razorback generates a good deal more resistance when cutting.

The sheath that the Razorback comes with is unreasonably large for such a small knife, but that's no problem unless you're planning to carry it concealed.
 
They are very different knives. The Razorback has a thicker, much narrower blade, and a shorter, narrower internal tang. The Nivravus has a full tang and a much wider blade with a much higher grind.

The Razorback is pretty much designed as a single purpose knife for stabbing people. It has some significant design strengths in that area - the handle locks into my hand very solidly in sabre, hammer, and reverse grips, the point is enormously strong, and the cross section leaves a brutal wound channel in my targets.

The Nimravus is a much more general purpose knife, which still works well for stabbing. For anything other than stabbing, it is a much better knife than the Razorback. It cuts better, resharpens more easily (due to the thinner edge and finer, higher grind) and handles much better as a work knife.

Unless you plan on having to stab people a lot, I'd recommend the Nim, and like DocNightfall, I'd personally prefer the general purpose drop point over the tanto.

I really need to put my Razorback up on the Trade forum sometime. Really well made piece, but I have no use for it.
 
hum, thanks guys. that helped alot.

do you guys know if the razorback is legal in California? i read in a different thread it wasnt.

I understand that the two knives have very different purposes. it seems the nimravus has pros in stabbing people and for EDC. but the razorback is mainly for SD and stabbing and slashing flesh. i know the razorback isnt the best for EDC use but is it still able to cut through cardboard, tape, etc. easily?
 
Nick Hyle said:
The Razorback is pretty much designed as a single purpose knife for stabbing people. It has some significant design strengths in that area - the handle locks into my hand very solidly in sabre, hammer, and reverse grips, the point is enormously strong, and the cross section leaves a brutal wound channel in my targets.
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Please tell me you used ballistics jelly to come up with this information. :eek:
 
also, are there different versions of the MOD razorback? on the blackhawk site theres an image of the knife but there is not as much writing on the blade itself then on other images of the knife

http://www.blackhawk.com/product1.asp?P=50-&C=C0976

here you can see some more little writing on the blade:

http://www.thebladeshop.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1268

or http://www.thebladeshop.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1269

is there a full tang version of this knife by any chance? has there been reports of these knives breaking?
 
hum, alright. does anyone know what the differences are between the knives with more and less writing?

i know the razorback isnt the best knife for EDC, but is it so bad its unusable? or can i still be able to cut wood, rope, cardboard, tape, etc, easily?
 
It should be fine on those tasks, but you'd be giving up a more useful blade shape, not to mention width, for something that was specifically designed to be a weapon.

From someone who prefers the look of a Tanto style blade, drop-point is a more useful blade shape. I bought several knives before I was willing to accept this, and I still really like the look of most Tanto-edged knives, but Spear Point, Drop Point, and other more 'traditional' blade shapes are just better for general use cutting.

But if you have to ask that many times, it looks like you're leaning more toward the MOD anyway, so go for it :)
 
Get the Nimravus - don't convince yourself into something that is not designed for the tasks you want to complete. I love my Nim, it does everything I ask it to, and it manages to feel good in the hand as well. It is a solid piece.
 
I had a razorback, and loved it, thought I really never carried it, since I was always carrying my MK IV Stinger instead (also MOD, discontinued, available from newgraham).

It is not a full tang, but is in fact very sharp. I have read many reviews on it and havent heard of breaking. The blade is thick, so depending on what you are using it for, it might not work. It's more of an EDC defense knife than an EDC utility knife. I never actually had to use it to cut anything, so I can't help there. Has a nice feel and the sheath is pretty good.

Too bad someone stole mine :-(
 
i have 2 razorbacks and like them but they are more SD oriented vs utility, mine have pretty good sheaths also. IIRC the newer ones have a smaller logo on them, also they are not full tang but i have heard of no probs with them in that regard.

for SD i would prefer the razorback for utility i would perfer the nim, just depends on what ya need, really in a pinch either would be fine for anything though.

NGK is the #1 spot on the net for knives imho.
 
SIFU1A said:
i have 2 razorbacks and like them but they are more SD oriented vs utility, mine have pretty good sheaths also. IIRC the newer ones have a smaller logo on them, also they are not full tang but i have heard of no probs with them in that regard.

for SD i would prefer the razorback for utility i would perfer the nim, just depends on what ya need, really in a pinch either would be fine for anything though.

NGK is the #1 spot on the net for knives imho.
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hum, alright that sounds good then. i guess i can use the razorback for SD and i have a Leatherman Wave for EDC/utility.

so your sure the newer ones have the smaller logos and less writing?

ok great, i will probably buy it at NGK then.
 
check this out:

"This "Razorback" is the ORIGINAL M.O.D. manufactured knife, and NOT..., I repeat NOT the newer Blackhawk version. Nothing against Blackhawk (some of their products are great), but the two knives are not comparable. Whether you like it or not..., it's TRUE. You can FEEL and SEE the quality of the original "Razorback." The Blackhawk doesn't compare."

is that true? i thought MOD IS blackhawk. like Blackhawk > MOD > razorback.
 
Blackhawk bought the MOD name, and since then the knives have not been of the same quality.
 
Geez, How many people do you think need stabbin? ;) Unless your next trip is off to the Persian Gulf fighting off Hadjis or some Country ending in -Stan, I would think all you would need is a Good utility blade like that of the Benchmade. Better yet,save a couple more bucks and buy a Busse, you will be spoiled forever.
 
@ McGruff - thats a shame...so i guess the ones with the bigger logos and more writing are by MOD?

@ FireInvestigator - hum, about 12 people come to mind :P

i already have a utility knife, got a Leatherman Wave. just shopping around for a good SD knife.
 
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