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Hey everybody, I really like the look of the Masters of defense Small tactical fighter. I hear it's a really good first MOD. It would but what gets me is that it only has a option with tip- down carry, I don't think that is very good for SD. IMO Tip-up carry has a quicker draw and seems to be 9 times out of ten, more concealable which may be good for a SMALL SD knife which would be good in Urban/Street settings. Any opinions and does anyone have any knowledge if MOD plans to make a tip-up version of the STF?
 
If you do a search you will come across allot of neg. things about them. The primary comment is they are more of a toy and not much of a user. To bad, I like the design and still might give one a shot.
 
You might want to check out Benchmades Accent series (154cm, .115" thick) before spending twice the amount for the new MOD Stf. The reason I say this, is because they both have plastic handles and the same steel. I have two MODs and they did'nt come nearly as sharp as my Benchmades have. If you like their plungelock system, that could be a plus to get one (compared to the Dieter models.)
 
TheBadGuy:

MODS may be considered a toy by some but then certainly aren't toys.

Good materials, put together properly, and the crayton inserts keep the knife where you put it on the pocket [easy retrieval]

For those who think tip up carry is faster to deploy, I have this statement for them.

I carried tip up on several customs and commercially available models because that was the way they were configured from the factory until I stabbed my thumb three times on different knives attempting retrieval of same.

Lots of roughing around and jostling etc let the blades open about 1/4 to 1/2" in the pocket. Diving in to retrieve produced some nasty stab wounds to the thumb.

I let it go on the first two "accidents" and after the third time and nearly stitches to close it up I will no longer carry tip up.

As to retrievals faster in tip up, don't count on it. Some will be faster and others not so. Very few are as fast on retrievals as the technique I use and developed over 10 years ago before I ever trained with Keating. He named the technique when he saw it the ["Pop"] as in "Brownie Pop".
That technique works better with tip down but is still fast in tip up as well.

One is not faster than the other and I would venture to guess that my tip down will be out and deployed that way long before the others have even opened the blade, let alone ready to use it.

Times from touching the knife to fully deployed and facing the opponent run under 1/2 second. Will others be able to perform to this level? Probably not many, if any, but to say tip up is faster is a disservice to those carrying tip down like myself.

Wouldn't want anybody to read that and decide they needed to switch knives for a perceived increas in speed of deployment.

No thumb stabs with tip up ever again, just like no serrations as they produce cuts less deep through most clothing under actual testing of same.

Brownie
 
I am not calling Master of Defenese Knives as a whole "Toys" I said that I have heard from others that the "STF" models are like toys :)
 
TheBadGuy:

I understood you were relating others comments.
Haven't seen the STF to say anything good, bad, or otherwise to date.

I've owned a MOD trident, MOD deiter, MOD tempest and they are rugged knives. Mine all needed sharpening when new but that is no reflection on the company or product as I sharpen all the knives when new to my specs no matter what the maker.

In the hands of one who knows how to use a knife defensively they are no more or less effective than another.

Brownie
 
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