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Model 12-11 with Heiser Sheath - Price?
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Does the sheath have the HH Heiser stamp or is the person that is selling the knife saying it's in a Heiser sheath? Couldn't tell much from your picture. Also, what color is the stone. The best person to really answer your question would be Sheldon Wickersham. If he doesn't answer your question on this site you might try sending him an email through is website: Blue Star Knives; http://www.bluestarknives.com.
Dan
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As long as the sheath is all together and isn't falling apart you can send it to Grady McCotter. He restores and repairs sheaths at a very reasonable price. I've seen sheaths in worst shape than that one repaired to almost new like condition.
Dan
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Thanks, Dan!!
The stone is uniform gray, "No. 149 by Carborundum" stamped on the side.
The stone is uniform gray, "No. 149 by Carborundum" stamped on the side.
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Bought it last night! The pics the seller posted did not show the pommel. Large brass hex nut indicates possible 1940's era based on what I read in the Randall Fighting Knives in Wartime by R. Hunt?
Did the the 12 series come with any provisions for a lanyard? This has none.
I thought I read somewhere that the 12 series was developed in the early 50'S?
Spacers are all nonmettalic, look almost plastic - black/yellow/red at the pommel and R/Y/B/Y/R at the guard.
It has no real edge to speak of.
I have to admit this is my first Randall. Nothing like starting out big...
Next purchase will be the book...LOL
:thumbup:Thanks for everyone's input on this!:thumbup:
Brad
Did the the 12 series come with any provisions for a lanyard? This has none.
I thought I read somewhere that the 12 series was developed in the early 50'S?
Spacers are all nonmettalic, look almost plastic - black/yellow/red at the pommel and R/Y/B/Y/R at the guard.
It has no real edge to speak of.
I have to admit this is my first Randall. Nothing like starting out big...
Next purchase will be the book...LOL
:thumbup:Thanks for everyone's input on this!:thumbup:
Brad
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Hi Brad,
The Model 12 Smithsonian (or "Smitty" or "Heavy") was introduced in 1953. I put yours somewhat North of '55 primarily because the keeper on the sheath is diagonal and not horizontal. The blade looks either chromed (Which the shop would do on request) or polished after it left the shop, but I can't be sure from your pics. The sheath was likely dyed black by an owner. The stone is not original. Should be a Norton. All said and done I think you paid a fair price. Shel may be able to elaborate further.
Best,
The Model 12 Smithsonian (or "Smitty" or "Heavy") was introduced in 1953. I put yours somewhat North of '55 primarily because the keeper on the sheath is diagonal and not horizontal. The blade looks either chromed (Which the shop would do on request) or polished after it left the shop, but I can't be sure from your pics. The sheath was likely dyed black by an owner. The stone is not original. Should be a Norton. All said and done I think you paid a fair price. Shel may be able to elaborate further.
Best,
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Ron,
The blade is chromed as you suggested. I remembered '53 as the inception date so the fighter brass hex-nut dating had me confused. Thanks for clarifying the date. And yes, it looks to have been dyed post production.
As I said, the book comes next, ASAP!
I have a friend whose grandfather left him both a Scagel and a Randall Springfield, that was my first introduction to Randall. Been watching Randall knives online over the years but they were always out of my price range until this popped up. I was originally thinking of flipping it, I have a buyer lined up but am not sure I am going to part with it now. The heft of this knife is wonderful. My girlfirend went with me to pick it up and she was stunned at the size and weight. (Had to tell her it had an 18" blade...been lying about lengths for years...:jerkit
Have a great weekend!
Brad
The blade is chromed as you suggested. I remembered '53 as the inception date so the fighter brass hex-nut dating had me confused. Thanks for clarifying the date. And yes, it looks to have been dyed post production.
As I said, the book comes next, ASAP!
I have a friend whose grandfather left him both a Scagel and a Randall Springfield, that was my first introduction to Randall. Been watching Randall knives online over the years but they were always out of my price range until this popped up. I was originally thinking of flipping it, I have a buyer lined up but am not sure I am going to part with it now. The heft of this knife is wonderful. My girlfirend went with me to pick it up and she was stunned at the size and weight. (Had to tell her it had an 18" blade...been lying about lengths for years...:jerkit
Have a great weekend!
Brad
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Brad,
I'm sure you've heard this enough times, but Randalls are really addicting. Especially the older ones IMO. If you're really serious, I'd like to suggest that you do a lot of reading up. There are a number of good books available by Bob Gaddis, Sheldon, Robert Hunt and Pete Hamilton plus a lot of good info on the RKS Society forum. Before long you'll know exactly what you're buying (or not buying).
You have a great weekend as well!
I'm sure you've heard this enough times, but Randalls are really addicting. Especially the older ones IMO. If you're really serious, I'd like to suggest that you do a lot of reading up. There are a number of good books available by Bob Gaddis, Sheldon, Robert Hunt and Pete Hamilton plus a lot of good info on the RKS Society forum. Before long you'll know exactly what you're buying (or not buying).
You have a great weekend as well!
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Ron, as always, you pretty much nailed it - as did Dan :thumbup:
Brad, if this keeps up, you may soon have to change your BFC handle to 'allmarbles(and some Randall's)'...
Have a great weekend too Ron; my tailbone hurts, I went snowboarding for the first time today...
Shel
Brad, if this keeps up, you may soon have to change your BFC handle to 'allmarbles(and some Randall's)'...
Have a great weekend too Ron; my tailbone hurts, I went snowboarding for the first time today...
Shel
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Brad, you are right about the heft of the 12-11's. I have a 1960's ivory handle 12-11 and just sold a iron wood 12-11. The heft the knife is something else. I have a Raymond Thorp; 12-13 and it seems to be lighter to me. I really like the big Bowies.
Dan
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I have to admit a large part of my collecting addiction is the hunt for treasures in the wild. The thrill of finding an item someone has overlooked is almost (yes, almost) unbeatable. Was at a local antique show last weekend and bought an old italian 2-blade pick knife for $20, just posted in the auto section. Also found a hoard of old vintage marbles for around 30 cents on the dollar, and a beautiful old slag glass gear shift knob. Been looking for one of those for the better part of 8 years.
Thanks to everyone for their comments and insights!!
Brad
Thanks to everyone for their comments and insights!!
Brad