Modern Packing Material and Khukuris

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I'd thought of this thread before Christmas, but after many hours spent unraveling the modern theft protection around today's toys I rose fresh to the challenge.

Even Baby toys of small value are wired down into the cardboard box,which is then thoroughly taped. It takes long enough to figure out how some of these toys operate, let alone unwrap them. Christmas day was a long line of kids bringing toys for defrag work. Geeze!

I thought of using a khuk on some of them, but wanted to have some of the toy left afterword.

I used a Karda and small pocketknife constantly, and really should have reached for the wirecutters.


This reminds me of a knife nut I read here a few years ago- he had no idea how he'd gotten along so long without a knife on his person. I get it.

Even over the counter pill containers sometimes are better served with a knife then my fingertips- worn a little raw from today's packing materials.







munk
 
Sounds like you're lucky to be alive, Munk. Having done enough of that type of unwrapping myself, I can sympathize. I always have my trusty Okapi at hand, but you're right about the wire cutters. Some of the cable ties that they use to fasten the toys to the cardboard would have restrained King Kong.
 
Part of reason my Endura II's blade is dinged up is from packaging like that(coruse, also use it to cut cables, etc, but tha's not the point. :)
 
I agree with you about this kids packaging. Wire cutters are the most useful tool, but how many people carry them when they're visiting a relative at Christmas. I use a spyderco which I always carry (sorry Uncle Bill, but British police are a bit funny about Kukris), but I don't like cutting those twist ties with it.

I recon it got worse this year though, because the packaging now has the ties free ends securely sealed between two layers of cardboard covered in contact adhesive! I can only assume that there are a lot of people in China killing themselves laughing when they put these pakages together. Anyway we're the suckers who carry on buying this stuff, so we only have ourselves to blame, I suppose.
 
Hi Underhay,

I Thought you might wish to know that for the last couple of years, Locknives of any size are no longer legal in England for public carry.

So The spyderco is no longer legal carry! :(

The courts decided in thier infinate wisdom, that all locknives were in use actualy fixed blades & therefore illegal.

Thought you should know.

Cheers,

Spiral
 
That's sad.

THough I will admit that they may ahnve a point, least with Sal's stuff, as my Endura II or Delica II locked open is more sturdy than lots of fixed blades I've had. :)
 
As I recall it was sometime in the early 80's and I was working out or a rural Welfare offine in central Nevada.

I was trying to "pass" for sheeple in an office of 9 women and one guy ( me ).

The cops knew better as I'd advised them I was available to do Parole Revocation hearings ( already done 30+ ), and had registered probably the first gun ever registered in Mineral County. I did so on the premise that almost nobody knew there was a legal semi-auto version, and most cops thought any AK clone was full-auto, so I wanted them to know up front it was legal. Inside two weeks all calls from the Sheriff's Office requested to talk to me.

Anyway, one day the boss asked if I had a knife on me. Told her no, but had one in the car. At that point she turned to another woman in her late 50's and said "What good is a man without a knife?"

I immediately bought a SOG Tomcat or something of the sort.

Later, when I and another Social Worker were threatened I drove by the other SW's place after work and offered her a 32 Colt Detective Special. ( I of course had a M58 loaded with full charge hollow points. The other SW declined but blabbed to the boss, who I think reassesed my usefulness as a man.
:D :D :D
 
What good, indeed? ( The 'indeed' courtesy of Hunter S Thompson who brought it to this generation's attention the way ... was for Celine..whatever the hell all this means...)

Anyway, the plastic ties are being replaced with wire. The wire is then wrapped painfully around itself 10 or 30 times...then taped. Haven't heard about the adhesive yet..Indeed.



munk
 
Well sadley in little old England, A mans usefullness is limited to a sad sub 3 inches! single edged With no locking capacity! {they even includes Opinels!}{No jokes please!}

Guess I will have to play the " Do you want to come back to my place & see my kukris?" type of line.

My favorites include 1941 Gurkha issue clasp knife with a great marlin spike & hand chequrered horn grips. {The marlin spike is the key with non lockers, I think!} & and a late Victorian hand forged C.X.Lockwood Brothers,Sheffield. Cuban export,Brazilian rosewood Folder, Thats still tighter & better fit than most new slipjoints.

Must admit always used to prefer a lock or a Balisong in my youth though! I remember when 4.5 inch blade was legaly acceptable as well!

They still let us have belts to hold are trousers up though!

Spiral
;) :rolleyes: :D
 
Originally posted by spiraltwista
Well sadley in little old England, A mans usefullness is limited to a sad sub 3 inches! single edged With no locking capacity! {they even includes Opinels!}{No jokes please!}

.....and a late Victorian hand forged C.X.Lockwood Brothers,Sheffield. Cuban export,Brazilian rosewood Folder, Thats still tighter & better fit than most new slipjoints.


Spiral
;) :rolleyes: :D
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I'm afeared that if we aren't careful that it will be the same way here way too soon.:(

England used to make some of the finest steel in the world if not
-the- finest!!!! Sad to see the art comromised as it is today.:(

To keep things on topic I don't know about unwrapping kids toy's anymore, but would if I were around the grandkids on those days they get them.:D
How would a Leatherman Supertool fare against the packaging?
 
Spiral, those clasp knives are great arent they, I have three, one my grandfather bought, one with the spike (actually intended to remove stones from hooves of horses) and one I found for a pound somewhere. As for illegal knives, its annoying isn't it. My father carried a one inch knife with a steel spring bar that locked it, not the most dangerous of impliments but apparently totally illegal, weird! What I want to know is why are the locks illegal, they do nothing except make them safer to use. To be honest I don't exactly stick by the rules, I carry a 4.5 inch lock knife regularly and sometimes take my Khuk into the woods to cut wood to make sticks and staves from. Actually when my WW2 arrives I am going to go and cut a proper quarter staff with it, may carve it a little and so on, see what I can do.
 
Stmmzaum,
Yep there great! Altought the Indian & British military
ww1 & ww2 Clasp knifes are definatly fitted with marlin spikes for rope work etc. nothing to do with horses hooves!

Lock knives & other fixed blade knives are illegal as it is much easier to reapetatdly stab someone with them ,than it is with a slip joint that will probably collapse in the tussel & injure the user.

My days of illegal carry are long gone as the consequences in my case are to severe for me to risk nowadays.

To use my kukris I use friends & familys private land & transport the kuks in a locked metal case with a key at each end of the journy but not on my person!

We all make are choices in life & hope you never have any problems with yours.

Good luck with the quarter staff! What length & specis will you use?

Sorry Munk for going off topic! I havent come across the wire packaging yet, expect I will next xmas though!


Regards,
Spiral
 
Sorry Munk for going off topic! I havent come across the wire packaging yet, expect I will next xmas though!
>>> Spiraltwist


I'm so tangential I hardly noticed..seemed logical to me.

You are following complex and contorted laws and regulations which disarm honest citizens and empower bad guys. It is the bad guys, the thieves, who brought about the contorted and complex packing safeguards of today. It is the bad guys who bring us strip searches of little old ladies at airports...just tell me, it is the bad guys doing all this, isn't it? Or..did we do this to ourselves....in stupid reaction to bad guys?




munk
 
Sure Munk, I guess politicians like to be seen to be doing something even though a lot of there laws dont actualy work, its a sort of knee jerk reaction to the popular press.

Just hope no one ever kills anyone over here with a kukri! If they do the papers will be full of Gurkha head chopping storys & probably stuff about the little torture knives as well!:rolleyes:
Swiftly followed by yet more laws!

When I was a wild young man I didnt care about knife or firearms laws or the consequences but now I do.
But todays wild young men still wont care, & in England theres no such thing as self defense in a public place if you use a knife!
:rolleyes: Improvised weapons only accepted by courts!

o well now I feel sad.:(

But heyho such is life
:rolleyes: ;) :D
 
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