Modern production folders in carbon steels?

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XiaolongJackson

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Anyone know of any? It seems that they're all made of stainless or tool steels now. I'd like to see one in 1095 or something.

Also, by modern production folders, I mean in the style of Spydercos, Kershaws, etc. I already know about Opinel, Svord, Mercator, etc.
 
Moore Maker Roper. Spyderco is having several sprints in Super Blue - which isn't a carbon steel, but the alloying isn't very high and it patinas readily. Case had the mid-folding hunter, russlock, and copperlock patterns, so if any come in CV, those are also kinda close.
 
super blue is near enough in practice for the average user. basically will it start to patina if you stick it in an apple for ten minutes? Then it's carbon :p

You can find folders in d2 and cpm m4 rather easily, but those are also high alloy, and also resist staining much more than traditional carbon steel. But they're not labeled as stainless. I know cpm m4 will take a decent patina, but you really have to try.
 
wow, I never realized the tuff was in 3v steel until you piqued my curiosity just now. I was so turned off by its appearance that I always skipped over it when it was brought up... I just kind of figured it was s30v or a more typical spydie steel.

I like pointy, slicey, thinner knives, so I never thought twice about the tuff.
 
Benchmade lockback in D2 at Rc 60-62 from the "bone collector" series

Queen Mountain man lockback D2

Ontario 1095 4 inch blade lockback. rc 50-54? I have one and don't recommend it.

Spyderco Super blue series are the class acts of this genre. The CPM M4 G. Bradley is also excellent.

Spyderco Tuff. 3V. Tuff it is, as well as super precision, quality build.

The upcoming millie in Cruwear is my biggest want in a knife I can remember having. I thank Sal for making my dream knife a reality. :)
 
When it hits the market (I am hearing around summer) a good carbon steel folder will be the Izula folder. We need to push the big makers into using more carbon steels (especially stuff like 1095). All you have to do is patina the blade, and it pretty much won't rust (unless you are just a bad knife owner).

Spyderco could make a 1095 knife with a simple construction and liner lock so we can take it apart and patina the blade easily. I don't want the knife to be Axis style or lockback, too much of a pain to reassemble.
 
dkb45 said:
When it hits the market (I am hearing around summer) a good carbon steel folder will be the Izula folder. We need to push the big makers into using more carbon steels (especially stuff like 1095). All you have to do is patina the blade, and it pretty much won't rust (unless you are just a bad knife owner).

Spyderco could make a 1095 knife with a simple construction and liner lock so we can take it apart and patina the blade easily. I don't want the knife to be Axis style or lockback, too much of a pain to reassemble.
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I was under the impression that the Izula folder was not going to be 1095. That's why it was taking so long, hammering out the details for the new steel which I think is D2.
 
I thought the issue was getting tbe machinery to do something that isn't a fixed blade? What I have seen said it was going to be 1095 though. Timberline is also making some cheap (about $40 street) D2 folders later this year.
 
I carry lightweight EDCs and most of them are constructed of stainless steel. But then, I don't put demands on my folders that require them to have the level of toughness carbon steels provide. Modern stainless alloys are more than tough enough for my needs. And stainless is just plain easier to maintain. YMMV.
 
Case trapperlock. Liner lock, thumb stud, pocket clip and you can get it in cv. One of my favorite knives to carry.
 
my grail, cpm m4 military
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Thanks for all the replies so far, but it seems that most of the folders being mentioned here are tool steels. I was under the impression that they're not classified as carbon steels. Am I wrong?
 
XiaolongJackson said:
Thanks for all the replies so far, but it seems that most of the folders being mentioned here are tool steels. I was under the impression that they're not classified as carbon steels. Am I wrong?
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well, the thing is that "carbon" is a misnomer in that stainless steels often have just as much carbon as "carbon steel", if not more. I think the naming system is a little out dated, at least how most people use it.

I know most people just lump non stainless in with carbon, myself included.
 
XiaolongJackson said:
Thanks for all the replies so far, but it seems that most of the folders being mentioned here are tool steels. I was under the impression that they're not classified as carbon steels. Am I wrong?
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No, you are correct. Carbon steels are called carbon steel because they only contain carbon as the major alloying and carbide forming element.
 
jimmyd1982 said:
Case trapperlock. Liner lock, thumb stud, pocket clip and you can get it in cv. One of my favorite knives to carry.
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Case was the first manufacturer that came to mind when I read the OP's question. Besides the Trapperlock they made a CV Russlock and a CV Mid Folding Hunter, I don't know whether they are still in production or not.
 
There are the Mountain Man folders and I think some 110-style Schrades... not exactly modern, though! I wonder how much it would cost to get a replacement blade for a Spyderco or Kershaw cut out from 1095.
 
Goosey said:
There are the Mountain Man folders and I think some 110-style Schrades... not exactly modern, though!
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All of the new Schrade items are low-end stainless, as far as I know anyway. To get some good carbon steel Old Timers, you have to find the original pre-2004 knives. Common and inexpensive in the aftermarket. Look for the USA tang stamps.

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Great Eastern Cutlery is making some beautiful high end knives in 1095 carbon steel under their Titiote and Northfield brands.
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Boker has a nice selection of knives in carbon steel, like these in C-75. Excellent build quality and very affordable.
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Queen does quite a bit in D2, and their Heritage series is using 1095.
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Case has a small selection of their products in CV, which is apparently 1095 with extra chrome and extra vanadium.
Always beautiful, but build quality varies.
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