Modifying a Buck 110 & 560

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Guys,

I have a couple of 110's I'd like to modify by changing out the slabs, etc.
I also have a 560 I'd like to enhance by changing the pivot pin for a adjustable one and maybe adding a pocket clip.

Can anyone make any recommendations for tutorials, books, forums, threads, etc. Anything that can give me some step by step guidance. Thanks for your help.


Frank
 
Frank,

I can give you some pointers on the inlay swaps.
I take it you've not tried to replace the scale before. So what type of belt grinder to you have?
 
Sorry to confuse, I have no experience at all!

That's why I'd like some info on how to get started.
 
OK...well then I take it you have no tools at all?
If that is the case you're in for a tedious long stock removal process by hand and I don't envy you. Even with my Cootes belt grinder, I have a significant amount of hand sanding on my scale replacement projects on 110s.

Your work by hand will difficult in that 90 degree corners to flush fit the wood or other material will be exceedingly difficult. I know this sounds like I'm discouraging you but you've got a long road to hoe being that you are tool limited.

Try starting with these two books: Step-by-Step Knifemaking (You Can Do It) by David Boye & Blade's Guide to Making Knives Edited by Joe Kertzman. Buy the Blade book first. I suspect you can find one used on Amazon cheap. It'll give you an good idea what's involved in the whole process and certainly in handle work too.

For me though, you need something like a Norm Cootes belt grinder or something similar if you going to be a knife mod. guy.
http://www.cootebeltgrinder.com/Information/index.htm

Hope this helps
 
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Guys,

I have a couple of 110's I'd like to modify...I also have a 560 I'd like to...
Can anyone make any recommendations for tutorials...

Frank -

There've been some excellent threads here in this Forum on modding the 110, but you'll have to Search for them...and that requires a higher level of membership... :(

I started modding 110's & 112's here about 5+ years ago (IIRC?), and although I have a machine tools background, it was a learning experience...I managed to use my mill and belt sander for knife work, but I also found that a 1-ton Harbor Freight arbor press was pretty much a must...

Catalogs from knife supply houses like Jantz and Texas Knife Supply will give you an idea of what the REAL knife manglers use for tools & supplies...

I like the oddball mods (2-bladed 110's & 112's; 426 blade in a 110 frame; etc), but there are others here who have posted their mostly straightforward mods like scale replacement, blade swapping, filework, etc.

Modding the 560 is a whole lot different than the 110. The SS rivets are recessed, and the "handle" is Titanium, which is not as forgiving to work as brass or aluminum...and it behaves differently...Personally, I don't like it...I've made my own "186" out of Titanium, and I'll never use it again... :grumpy:

The buck 110 & 112 also use hollow rivets installed from the outside-in to hold the scales on. The liners are chamfered on the inner surface for the hollow end, and it is the head which is on the outside. What this means is that it is easier to pop out the three brass rivets and one steel backbone rivet and disassemble the knife than it is to just try to remove the scales without disassembly...that's my own personal opinion...I use that arbor press and a home-made jig to pop out the blade/liner rivets, mill off the steel rivet head and pop that out...In assembly, I use 1/8" brass rod just a bit longer than the knife width for my rivets and crush them in place with the arbor press...I use brass brads from Ace Hardware for my scale rivets...also peened in place...

Maybe DarrylS has the URLs for some of the mods...

There were a lot of manglers who posted here years ago, but they seem to have moved on, and only a few of the newer members have posted "How To" articles... :(
 
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trax that was a wonderful post!
yes he is in for a job to get glued scales off!
he should have tryed a rubber bucky!
 
Yes, very good post Trax.

And I took Trax's advise a while back on the 1ton Arbor Press. Its a must have if you're going to disassemble a pined knife.
 
yes he is in for a job to get glued scales off!

I've only noticed the really tough glue (or any glue) on the older slab-sided 110's...The newer rounded-edge 110's don't seem to have any glue...Just the rivets...

Anyone else have any problem or even noticed glue on the rounded 110's??? :confused:

As for the glue on slab-sided 110's...You'll have to destroy/file/chisel the wood off...That glue just won't give up... :o
 
Frank -



Maybe DarrylS has the URLs for some of the mods...

There were a lot of manglers who posted here years ago, but they seem to have moved on, and only a few of the newer members have posted "How To" articles... :(

:cool:...Frank...Here's a very few of Trax's projects while still in process. He used titanium on these and didn't exhibit any love whatsoever for working with it all he while he did it...LOL...:D







 
:cool:...Frank...Here's a very few of Trax's projects while still in process.


DarrylS - I was hoping you remembered where those old threads on the 2-blade 110's were... :(

Spark has decided to accept PayPal for membership dues, so I'll be upgrading soon...Maybe I can do a Search for my old posts...there's only 5000+ of them... :rolleyes:
 
:(...I'd have to try a manual search through all the old threads myself Trax...I have a bunch of pictures of your 2-blade 110's but I didn't Bookmark the urls...
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:(...I'd have to try a manual search through all the old threads myself Trax...I have a bunch of pictures of your 2-blade 110's but I didn't Bookmark the urls...

Me neither...Some of the pics may have been deleted by now anyway...

Plus I can't get anything uploaded to PhotoBucket anymore, since they replaced the uploader with a Flash applet... :mad:

I'll have to download my pics and find a new photo storage site... :grumpy:
 
Wow, I had no idea it was that much work. I guess that's what separates the men from the boys. I got my hands on a 560, it's got some side to side movement and wondering why Buck never used tension screws. That was part of my motivation for the post.

I know I can send it back to Buck, I just might do that. One day I might give it a go.
 
Oh me,,,,side to side movement on a 560.

My experience on one that was really bad and got worse as I was using it, was for Buck to peen the pivot pin. Did tighten it, but it wasn't pretty.

Point being, those 560's aren't made anymore and I don't think Buck has parts for them. Buck had issues with that knife is one reason they don't make them any more. That and availability of the titanium handles I believe was a problem, as those were outsourced.
 
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