More Paperstone?

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DocT

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Do you think we will see more paperstone on Buck knives? I think a 302 with ivory or sienna or slate paperstone would be pretty nice.

I hope we see more of this stuff, unless there is a problem with it I am unaware of. It looks good in all color ranges and it ages, too. I think I would like to see how this stuff does rather than more Dymondwood.
 
My understanding is that once the current stocks of Dymondwood are gone, they are gone forever. Rutland Plywood burned to the ground in 2014 and as far as I know they're not back on line. Their web site certainly hasn't been updated since the fire.
http://www.rutply.com/

If this holds true and if Buck wants to use highly stable synthetic based scales, they'll need to be looking at more of alternatives like Paperstone (or G2 or Micarta or...)

I continue to hope for a (Paperstone) Ecolite 110 reboot. This time with the new custom shop drop point and thinner (13mm) and with a more robust pivot and a lanyard hole. As long as we're dreaming and all that...
 
I have a 110 and 112 paperstone and they are light to carry. I like the having that option. It think they look okay too.

Did they not sell? Did the material break down over time? Manufacturing cost too high? I wouldn't mind knowing the reason we don't see it.

I would like to see it again. A 302 with ivory or sienna or slate paperstone or a Ecolite 110 reboot both work for me too.
 
BuckShack,

My recollection of the discussions here suggest they didn't sell well. Who knows why?

I can only share my personal experiences with my Ecolite 112, which I got rid of.

First, while they were significantly lighter (as in Sodbuster light, much better than 110/112 brass brick heavy), they were just as thick as the original 110/112 (about 15+ mm) and noticeably thicker in the pocket than, say, a Case Sodbuster (13mm). Which is to say, that despite its light weight, the 112 Ecolite didn't carry well in my pocket. A Buck 500 (heavy but thin) and a Case Sodbuster (just as light but a bit thinner) both carry much better for me.

Second, while the Paperstone is quite pretty to my eye, I found the Ecolite 112 to be quite dull aesthetically. I think my (Camillus made) Buck 307 and Case Sodbuster are much prettier and conclude that for my eyes, I prefer having a traditional brass liner. It just adds something visually that the Ecolite lacked. I can take my 307 or Sodbuster or classic 110, show it to friends and get a "that's pretty" reaction. I found the Ecolite 112 lacked that something extra. Brass liners would make it prettier, imo, as would some detail on the pivot like GEC and many others do with their bird's eye style pivots. Another thing that didn't work for me aesthetically was the finger grooves. The knife wasn't really full modern (like the Bucklite Max) or full traditional (like the classic 110/112) and it visually looked like a hybrid. Sort of like garlic ice cream. A bad mixture.

Third, the Ecolite felt bad in my hand. For me, it was the partial liner which left a very sharp hollow feeling as my hand moved across the well as I turned the knife from one hold to another. I sanded down the edge of well and it helped a bit but it didn't get rid of a cheap feeling. I would prefer to take the weight hit and have full liners on that knife. Would look better (especially if they were brass) and it would feel better in my hand.

My dream for a reboot...
- Thinner (13mm)
- No finger grooves
- Enlarged pivot with washer that says Buck Ecolite
- Full brass liners
- Brass lanyard hole

Essentially I want a knife that is as pretty or prettier than GEC's Farm and Field (or Mudbug) or Queen's Country Cousin, only I want it from Buck.
 
pinnah, these are all interesting and well thought out modifications. I think it would be a really nice Buck knife. :thumbup:
 
I think they didn't sell well due to marketing. They were on their way out when I first discovered that they were even made. Had I not discovered blade forums, I wouldn't have even known they existed. I never saw them in stores. If they would have sold them at stores like Wal-Mart alongside the 110 like they did the original Bucklites, I think they would have been more popular.
 
A larger pivot on the 112 and 110 is a good idea. I also think the handle should be the same shape as the standard knives, but thinner. They need to get rid of the finger grooves or whatever they are.

I think paperstone has some unique qualities and it might be interesting to see some more knives with this material. I wonder how it would do on a 119 or a 102?
 
I have 2 vantages with paperstone. Its not my favorite. Scales are more sharp edged and to me they feel heavier than the dymonwood or frn scaled versions
 
I wasn't a fan of the raised rivets. As much as I dislike the heavy and thick 110 and 112 handles, they were much more comfortable to hold.
 
StuntDouble said:
I wasn't a fan of the raised rivets. As much as I dislike the heavy and thick 110 and 112 handles, they were much more comfortable to hold.
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That is a design flaw and not a paperstone flaw, I believe. I think paperstone would make a great alternative to micarta, but I am not sure of this.
 
DocT said:
That is a design flaw and not a paperstone flaw, I believe. I think paperstone would make a great alternative to micarta, but I am not sure of this.
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I'm sure you're right. I thought I heard that it was durable, just not as durable as Micarta.

I'd love to see it on some slippies or even on some more of their fixed blades.
 
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