More sad news for former Camillus employees

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This from the Thursday, March 1, 2007, Syracuse (NY) Post-Standard:

Cutlery Co. Shorts Pension Fund
Camillus company misses $5M payment; liens placed against assets


By Tim Knauss
Staff writer

The three dozen remaining employees of Camillus Cutlery Co. punched out for the last time Wednesday afternoon, closing the last chapter of a century-old knife manufacturer that once employed more than 700 people.

The end was extra bitter, a union leader said, because company officials provided no information to employees as they left about their pensions and other matters.

Amid the silence, there was evidence the pensions might be underfunded.

The Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp., a federal agency that insures pensions, last week placed liens against the assets of Camillus Cutlery, which failed to make nearly $5 million in contributions to its pension plans in November.

The company missed a scheduled contribution of about $1.7 million to its pension plan for salaried employees and a contribution of about $3.2 million to the retirement plan for hourly employees, according to documents filed with the New York Department of State.

The liens allow the pension insurer to return money to the pension plans if there are proceeds from the sale of company assets. But the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. has not assumed control of the pensions, said Jeffrey Speicher, speaking for the pension insurer.

Speicher said he had no further information about the status of the pension funds, which are managed by Camillus Cutlery.

Kathy Westcott, president of United Steelworkers Local 4783 and a 30-year veteran of the cutlery, said she and 15 other hourly workers received no information Wednesday. They do not know when their health insurance expires, whether they will be paid for unused vacations or whom to contact about their pensions.

"We were never given any information from management - no goodbyes, no nothing," she said.

Salaried employees were told their health insurance ended Wednesday and that further information would be mailed to them, Westcott said.

Managers and owners of the company declined comment.

The company is privately owned by members of the Schwartz and Kaufman families, descendants of former owner Albert Baer, employees say. None of the owners resides locally.

Ed Fletcher, mayor of the village of Camillus, where the cutlery has operated since 1894, said he has tried to reach principals of the company for information but none has returned his calls.

"I've been after them for eight months," he said.

Wednesday, a man who answered the phone at the residence of co-owner John Gilbert Kaufman, of Coral Gables, Fla., said, "I can't talk to you" and hung up when told a reporter was calling.
 
The government will cover it. Another example of sleazy management.
 
man... that's rough. I remember once at a former employer when
they had a big 'all hands' meeting. but there were 2 different meeting
places. one for the folks that were staying and one for those
that were getting the boot. The folks layed off had to leave right then
and there. The HR people would stand by the persons desk
watching them pack. rough stuff. and this was an Internet company.
Goes to show you... white collar or blue collar management can
still be jerks. oh and this happened like every 6 months or so until the staff was 'lean and mean.' Every time we had an 'all hands' meeting,
which was about 1x a month, people were always on edge.
Nothing like building company moral! Of course it was managements
fault for hiring 3X the amount of people necessary... maybe they should
of been the ones getting the boot?
 
Another tragic example of people on the front line greasing the pockets of the greedy getting the shaft. Sounds like a trainwreck bound to happen before leaving the station. When the actions of a few effect the lives of so many because of neglect, the justice should be swift and severe!

MPE
 
Was it greed or incompetence? Either way, it's a disgrace that management couldn't be bothered to let their last few employees know what they would be facing.
 
Was it greed or incompetence? Either way, it's a disgrace that management couldn't be bothered to let their last few employees know what they would be facing.

Management was the bank. That is what I would expect. Bank management isn't good at running anything other than banks.
 
The government will cover it.
The government fund is overdrawn and underfunded. Many employees at other companies have lost everything, placing partially-ripped-off employees lower on the totem pole and last in line for those government handouts.

Receiving federal help from the fund will probably depend entirely on the goverment fund receiving company assets from the lien they've filed against Camillus corporation. But how much assets remain after the company's been gutted over the last few months? And how many other creditors are in line first?

Hopefully the long-term Camillus employees are/were smart enough to plan for their own financial future, independant of the company's retirement program. There have been many news stories regarding the risk and uncertainty of corporate pension plans. Think of all the well-publicized examples of pension plan failures over the last ten years. Even a minimally-informed worker should know enough to not be dependant on their employer for long-term retirement benefits.

-Bob
 
Yeeha!

That union strike sure showed Camillus didn't it. Yes sir that union sure prevailed and helped their union members come out strong as Unionized employees of Camillus!


:rolleyes:
 
Perhaps you'd prefer unions had never existed. In which case, all those Camillus worlers would have been getting paid poverty wages all these years. And no overtime.... and so on.
 
Union aside this is bull...plain and simple, I hope the gov't helps out those employee's who lost there jobs. What goes around comes around I believe and hopefully those who screwed over the workers at Camillus get whats coming to them.
 
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