Mother Jones Takes On Knife Rights

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Mother Jones takes on Knife Rights in the November-December issue of the left-wing publication. While we could never have expected Mother Jones to be supportive of our positions, and their prejudices come through loud and clear in their snarky headline and over-the-top illustration, they mostly got the facts straight (with a couple glaring exceptions) and fairly presented our views.



Considering the source, it is a surprisingly balanced presentation of a subject they clearly find offensive. Mother Jones declined to allow us to re-publish the article, but you can read it here: http://bit.ly/PGCO8m (scroll down to "Outfront" section and CLICK "right to bear sabers, switchblades, and shivs" > Enter any email address > Scroll to page 12)

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It's a left-leaning publication but most of the pieces are grounded in common sense. Great to hear a positive piece on the issue.
 
"It's irrational to believe that if you ban certain types of knives, criminals will somehow stop being criminals."
-Doug Ritter

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Didn't take the time to read the article but from what I have read elsewhere most knife murders are commited with kitchen knives. Knife crime would usually be a crime of passion I would think so as to not "take a knife to a gun fight".

'Course, in England they are working to ban "long pointy" kitchen knives. What's next, sharp sticks?
 
davek14 said:
'Course, in England they are working to ban "long pointy" kitchen knives. What's next, sharp sticks?
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Fresh fruit!

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The general leftist position is that all people should be totally prevented by law from doing anything without being completely controlled by the state.
It's an entire political movement full of the most insane control freaks imaginable. They exist to control you. That's the goal of their lives.
 
timberweasel said:
"It's irrational to believe that if you ban certain types of knives, criminals will somehow stop being criminals."
-Doug Ritter

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Love that quote. Criminals by definition are not affected by laws. Law abiding citizens are the ones who have limitations in what they can carry.
 
twl said:
The general leftist position is that all people should be totally prevented by law from doing anything without being completely controlled by the state.
It's an entire political movement full of the most insane control freaks imaginable. They exist to control you. That's the goal of their lives.
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Nah, we just believe that a government by the people takes better care of the people than the private sector, who's main goal is to make money off the people. Profit isn't everything, folks.
 
jac8610 said:
Nah, we just believe that a government by the people takes better care of the people than the private sector, who's main goal is to make money off the people. Profit isn't everything, folks.
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LOL.....2 words: public restrooms.

Yeah...."people" don't even take care of themselves, much less others, unless there's an ulterior motive behind it. And "profit" does not necessarily have to equate to "money". Your "government by the people" is an incompetent bureaucracy that is in serious need of adult supervision. The only branch of that government worth what they get paid is also the only one that is not democratic in nature - our military.

The only thing wrong with twl's post is that he left out the fact that the left wants all that control in the hands of the state controlled by the left. Other than that, he was spot on.
 
BlackKnight86 said:
LOL.....2 words: public restrooms.

Yeah...."people" don't even take care of themselves, much less others, unless there's an ulterior motive behind it. And "profit" does not necessarily have to equate to "money". Your "government by the people" is an incompetent bureaucracy that is in serious need of adult supervision. The only branch of that government worth what they get paid is also the only one that is not democratic in nature - our military.

The only thing wrong with twl's post is that he left out the fact that the left wants all that control in the hands of the state controlled by the left. Other than that, he was spot on.
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I think you're mixing up totalitarianism with leftism. FYI, a lot of republicans have very pro-totalitarian views outside of gun ownership rights.
 
The political discussion going on in here is pretty cynical, biased, and based on rash generalizations, and I don't think this is the right place for it. I don't think ANYWHERE is the right place for it because it isn't being discussed rationally or reasonably. As for the article, I don't agree with their position but I'm not very opposed to their presentation of the issue.
 
jac8610 said:
Nah, we just believe that a government by the people takes better care of the people than the private sector, who's main goal is to make money off the people. Profit isn't everything, folks.
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"By the People" is a myth. Government is controlled by special interest groups and activists with their agenda. People forget we are not a pure Democracy (which is Mob Rule) we are a Representative Republic, in that we elect officials to make the decisions more in line with our views. These representatives of our views are democratically selected. The problem is, people are inherently dishonest for the most part so, we get what we get, and in some cases when people vote popularity or use some other selection criteria, we get what we deserve. Those who aspire to political power are easily manipulated by these special interest groups with promises of more power and influence etc. Its a dirty mess.
 
Free2game said:
I think you're mixing up totalitarianism with leftism. FYI, a lot of republicans have very pro-totalitarian views outside of gun ownership rights.
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No....I'm declining jac8610's invitation to mix up government with Mommie and Daddie. This has nothing to do with political parties. It's an issue of twl equating the left with "controlling" vs his equating the left with "caring"; and it was his equation on which I was commenting.
 
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jac8610 said:
Nah, we just believe that a government by the people takes better care of the people than the private sector, who's main goal is to make money off the people. Profit isn't everything, folks.
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I believe that I can take care of myself and don't the government's "help". Thanks anyway.
 
We're veering waaaay off topic, friends. I don't think anyone on this forum, no matter their political views, wants more restrictions placed on knives.

I myself did read the article start to finish, and I agree with Mr. Ritter that it was actually pretty honest and frankly was not very anti-knife. They state many of the things we often talk about, like New York's extortion racket disguised as public safety (well, that's what I choose to call it), the haphazard patchwork of knife laws across the US, and the fact that most knife crime is done with cheap kitchen knives (every cop and ME I have talked to concurs with that).
 
I thought it was a pretty well written article. I liked it.
I think Knife Rights should try to keep up the non-partisan image. Try to persuade people who disagree with you, rather than relying on those who already agree as a support base. Take the stance that "those who don't agree with us are incorrect," rather than "those who don't agree with us are idiots, who should be mocked instead of reasoned with." People will respond to that.
 
By simply swapping the word knives for guns the old saw goes when guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns. I aint givin up either!!
 
If anyone on this whole forum is more left-wing than I am, I'd be very pleasantly amazed. I am absolutely opposed to restricting knives including bali-songs , push daggers and automatics, which are all banned in Canada.
Having said that; the knee-jerk ,hysterical ,neanderthal out-bursts above [reminds me of the scene in 'The Campaign' where audience members at a debate are going insane over "Rainbowland"] must make most thinking individuals believe that knife lovers are all right-wing nutbars.
 
That's quite a fascinating article. It's kind of rare to see a fairly balanced look at issues like Knife or Gun rights from any publication.

Thanks for sharing this! :thumbup:
 
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