Mountain lions...more stuff

Great link. Chilling.


In the 1990's two incidents occured in the San Bernardino National Forest in Calif. A boyscout disapeared from a scouting expedition while hiking the summit of San Gorgonio, and in another disapearence, a man cutting wood above Palm Springs had his small toddler disapear. This was at first thought to be a classic familiy homicide but the more investigators examined the situation the more they doubted this. The father was never charged. In the missing scout, Negrete, he made national headlines. An all out search by forest, BLM, Sherrifs office, and marine helicopters with night vision failed to locate the boy. He was never seen alive again, nor was his body ever recovered.

In a Tucson scandal in the 90's, a well known and extremely experienced back country Sierra club hiker was never found while on a solo trip in the ( I think) Ricons. She weighed somewhere between 90 and 110 pounds. Experts later felt that after becoming tired, the small hiker would naturally 'slump' under weight of the pack, and this would make her seem more 'digestable' (my word) to any cougar watching.

It stands reasonable to conclude that at least some percentage of missing persons, particularly women and children, may be attributed to animal predation, notably cougars. I am reminded though of the over 30 deaths in India from Wolf attack and suspect many families will soon have second thoughts on wolf reintroduction in the lower US.

I've never trusted Cougars. Nothing I've read in 20 years on this issue gives me any confidence in their character. I have even less confidence in the animal rights groups and their willing syncophants in the media and forestry.

Three things got me interested in being armed when I was 31; meth labs, cougars, and riot.

munk
 
I just got a gift certificate to Amazon.com far Xmas...

Now I know what to spend it on. Many Thanks!

( PS - several copies are available ).
 
Scary stuff.

How does one get away from such an animal when it's already attacking? Would I reach down and grab it by the shins? :confused:
 
Bruise, one of the main arguments put out by various orgs like the Sierra Club has always been why bother with a gun or a knife since the cat kills by a single strike breaking the neck or ripping an artery. As you saw from the link, one guy survived by pulling a 3" folder and slitting the cat's neck. The autopsy on the female jogger killed in Ca confirmed she did not die immediately and the cat made a second strike. Had she a weapon...

The late Jack O'Connor had a very poor opinion of our Mt Lions. "Slob hunters" he called them. They are killers of opportunity. They don't like resistance. They don't like getting hurt. Even if a cat eats you, if its leg is broken or has lost an eye it probably will not survive. So a cat has to weigh risk.

The experts keep saying fight back, look tall, stare them in the eyes, throw rocks, grab a stick.

In many many of the accounts I've read- and I've followed this for years, the cat tries to imobilize the head and/or grab at the neck. The bike rider in BC survived only because a motorist saw what was happening and got out and slammed the bike into the cat. Other victims have been able to grab rocks, even if pinned, and start slamming.

Most accounts talk of being hit so hard they did not know what it was.

I always thought a cat's eye was a good thing to pull out. I think that might make a cat let go. I'd be willing to trade a hand for that. If I could reach my khuk...







munk
 
If it's got you by the neck or head it might as well be by the short hairs... fight like hell and try to bash the hell out of it or stab it.
And try not to be so sweet and tasty.
We're having problems with black bears out here in NJ, the hunts were banned for years, now we have over 3000 of them. Thankfully they allowed hunting again, that will hopefully keep the population stable, and make them fear humans again.
 
I read some real large black bears were being taken again on the eastern seaboard.






munk
 
Originally posted by munk
Three things got me interested in being armed when I was 31; meth labs, cougars, and riot.
munk

I would be more concerned about the tweakers than the cat. The cat is somewhat predictable. Tweakers are not.

Especially if spun out after 4 days.
 
I think Mr.BadExample nailed it whe he said:
make them fear humans again

They need to be trained to accept the fact that humans are the top predators...not them!

Deer know this, turkeys know this, even rabbits know this...why not the protected species? Because they have been protected.
 
Four days isn't too bad, Semper fi, they do that regularly. When they've gone months or years with these jaunts they become really dangerous. When it's all the time.

4 days is long enough to bring out the worst, though.



munk
 
Originally posted by Nasty
They need to be trained to accept the fact that humans are the top predators...not them![/B]

Um. With all due respect, when I went fishing in Canada, I kinda got the impression that humans were one step below mosquitoes and black flies on the food chain.

(Oh, but someone at the camp did get a black bear. Tasted like roast beef, not chicken.)
 
Be sure and read the reviews on his book

This looks like a great book...the 'teaser' kinda reminded me of that movie "the Ghost & the Darkness"...great movie!
 
I have all three books by Jim Corbett. The Temple Tiger, The Man-Eating Leopard of Rudraprayag, and Man-Eaters of Kumaon.

What makes the books so chilling is the matter of fact style of writing he adopts. Everything he writes in there is true, and no embellishment was made whatsoever. To think that he hunted and killed these man-eating tigers and leopards, armed with only his wits and a hunting rifle, is simply mind-boggling...
 
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