Mountain Man/Queen wobble?

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Now that Queen is under new management I was wondering if the Mountain Man wobble has been corrected? Has anyone purchased a MM from the new guys. They have been putting out some real pretty ones and I would like to pick one up but am worried about the wobble.
 
The first two MM's I had had some wobble. Both lockbacks. The zebra wood slipjoint I have from them is fine, and an older lockback with ACSB and 1095 I used to have, were fine.
 
I have two, a slipjoint model and a lockback. Based on the cover material (Birdseye Maple) I'm guessing they were made in ~2005-2006. Neither has any side-to-side wobble. The lockback has a small amount of vertical movement, which is really rather common in traditional lockback knives. (The tolerances necessary to absolutely eliminate wobble are beyond the reach of normal milling machines.)

I haven't any experience with any mountain man of newer vintage.
 
If you've visit Collectorknives.net Mike's (Knifeswapper) site you'll see that he has places a "Full Disclosure" notice on a number of new S&M because of blade movement..
 
He has that notice on his Queen Knives too. The "Full Disvclosure" notice says; "Has small amount of blade play typical with the pattern itself". This has nothing to do with the dealer. I believe it is to save him problems with people/whiners who buy these knives and then pester him about their being flawed and wanting to return them to him or the manufacturer. Smart move on Mike's part.
 
Boggs said:
If you've visit Collectorknives.net Mike's (Knifeswapper) site you'll see that he has places a "Full Disclosure" notice on a number of new S&M because of blade movement..
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Modoc ED said:
He has that notice on his Queen Knives too. The "Full Disvclosure" notice says; "Has small amount of blade play typical with the pattern itself". This has nothing to do with the dealer. I believe it is to save him problems with people/whiners who buy these knives and then pester him about their being flawed and wanting to return them to him or the manufacturer. Smart move on Mike's part.
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The discerning observer will also note that comments regarding wobble inherent in the pattern are only on the lockbacks...
 
knarfeng said:
...The lockback has a small amount of vertical movement, which is really rather common in traditional lockback knives.
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markksr said:
The discerning observer will also note that comments regarding wobble inherent in the pattern are only on the lockbacks...
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Yes. Many GEC lockbacks have the same vertical play. The tendency is not due to poor manufacturing. It is inherent in the classic lockback design.
 
I have 2 recent manufacture S & M Mountain Man lock backs and have been meaning to post a review but haven't had the time. The MMs have always been hit and miss when it comes to blade play and the recent ones are no exception. One of them is near perfect and the other has very noticeable play both lateral and vertical.
 
I can only add my two pence here. Recently purchased a Mountain Man and a Folding Hunter, both slip joints. The Mountain Man has no blade play. The Folding Hunter has noticeable lateral play (and came hardly sharpened). The springs on both are relatively weak. This said, they are beautiful knives with very clean finish.
 
I bought a MM lockback that had blade play and sent it back to Queen to have it fixed. If blade play was common in all lockbacks, how come none of my USA Schrade lockbacks (6OT, LB8, SC507, and the LB7s I don't own ant more) or Bucks have it? They all lock up tight, and originally sold for a whole bunch less than a MM. That said, Queen did make it right, and even sharpened it before they sent it back.
 
I said "It is common." I did not say, "every knife has it."
 
So what I'm getting is that some of them have the wobble. No worries. I have some that do and some that don't. The Mountain Man is still a hell of a knife. I like the fact that they are coming out with so many different versions.
 
I imagine most dealers would be happy to pick one out for you with minimal issues. There are also other makers producing their own version of the Mountain Man using more precise machining, Boker for example...
 
avoidspam said:
I imagine most dealers would be happy to pick one out for you with minimal issues. There are also other makers producing their own version of the Mountain Man using more precise machining, Boker for example...
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By chance do you have a model number on the Boker you referenced? I love the pattern, just not willing to waste any more time and money hoping I can get one Queen made right.

Thanks,
Jim
 
Looks like the Boker Plus may have integral bolsters, from that video. Cool feature, IMO. (Too bad they can't do that on their German-made line... For that matter, too bad some US makers don't do that...)
 
Intergal bolsters would not ensure no vertical blade wobble and most likely if a large number of these Boker knives were checked, some would most likely have some amount of blade wobble. Most brands have this to some degree. Just go through the various manufactures forums here at blade forums and you'll see references to vertical blade wobble for most of them.
 
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