MS test trials and tribulations

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All this talk about crowning new MSmiths made me recall my test, or at least the events leading up to it. I had some time with all of it.

First, you must realize that when Murphy comes....he comes to stay!!
I was working late nights and long weekends getting everything ready. This particular night was spent finishing my damascus sheath for the dagger I made. Since it was damascus, I was concerned about rust inside later down the road. I decided to melt beeswax inside and press the bass wood lining in the molten wax to secure it. Now the throat of the sheath had four small pieces silver soldered in place, and was rather delicate. The sheath had been hot gun blued as it was nickel damascus with gold wire inlay. Anyway, the wax went in, some ran down the side and onto the clamp I was holding it with, and next thing I know the clamp lets go and a piece of the throat breaks off on the floor. After three or four laps around the building to cool off, I sit and think on how to repair it. The only way is to resolder it, even though it ruined the blued finish. I left that night around 3AM.

Second, ( I am only hitting the high points here, a lot of other stuff happened I still have trouble talking about:p )After the "final night before the show" checks and touch ups, I head for home. I had an hour commute home from my shop at that time, so I was looking forward to a nice easy drive home before my 4AM wake up to drive to Atlanta. Well, some nut with a bomb in a van had other ideas. The highway that lead me home was closed. I got in at 1:30AM. Upon arriving home, I noticed a glue seam on a wood sheath for a tanto had started to split. Luckily I had some wood glue and a clamp at the house. I left it clamped until Atlanta and did some light touch up work in the hotel room.

Last, once in Atlanta, I wake up early to rub everything down before going to the room for examination and inspection. Everything seemed in order. I walk out, get in the elevator with a woman who was very intimidated by my arsenal, and promptly get stuck in there for over 20 min!!! A mere two inches from freedom with the door open just enough for the woman to shrilly becon for help. Now I am not a violent man......Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse, I turn around to look down at Alan Eleshiwitz making obscene gestures at me. If any of you know Alan, you know to make sure to wear a chastity belt if you plan on passing out around him. If you are down and out, you can count on Alan....to stick it to you (all in good fun of course..Alan is a good friend of mine). Anyway, I finally get out of the elevator, sprint to the room only to find it is the wrong one, then sprint to the right one a mere 20 min late. After pleading for a second or two, Jerry Fisk cracked a smile, shook his head and opened the door. The rest they say ...is now history.

Any other good testing stories out there?
 
So that is why you looked so tired that weekend :D. Bailey that really was a special weekend for you. Even I was excited. Your dagger and damascus bowie were drop dead stunning. Looking forward to spending a little time with you in a couple of weeks and seeing the surprises you have "cooked up" for this year. (Shoot we may even get to see a few guys around us get a little excited when the new Master Smiths are anounced.)
 
Bailey, that made me laugh; i needed one. On one of those long day late night deals I was hi-temp silver soldering up a n/s throat for a sheath. I made the joint, laid down the torch, and immediately reached over and picked up the throat; don't ask me why.The damn thing was so hot it stuck to my fingers and palm. When my screaming fingers finally connected to my tired brain; I slung my hand around like a little girl flailing at a spider. It took me two days to find that piece over in the back of the shop. Duct tape up the fingers and get back after it. No time,no time. The guys who have not gone through this can not imagine the stress or the hours. I know; we put the stress on ourselves. But when it is something that you really care about; and have put a few years effort into achieving; it gets really, really serious. When the best work you can do is judged by your friends and peers, it should mean something. good luck everyone mike
 
I don't have any "last minute night before you leave for the Blade show" stories because I had all 5 knives built in time for the spring hammer-in so I could get a pre-show inspection.

But let me tell you......the standing outside the judging room for several hours waiting for results should be added to a torture list. I never sweated so much in all my life and have been so nervous. Not to mention the stomache cancer that set in as John Fitch calls it. Sorry, you'll just have to ask Fitch at the Blade show what that means.

The worst is when Jerry Fisk sticks his head out the door and just looks at you and bows his head and shakes it in dissappointment like there is no way you have passed.

Good luck to all who are testing. Let your fingernails grow long right now....you'll need them in a few weeks and remember one thing is for sure. Some will pass and some will fail.

If that sounded kinda mean.......well I guess it's my turn to torture.
 
Very cool thread fellas-

It's really great to hear about the ups and downs on the road to your stamps. :)

Really looking forward to seeing you all in Atlanta :)
Nick
 
This has been a real great read - thanks for sharing the stories guys!

Cheers,

RogerP
 
OK, here is another tale of torture. This was not related to me getting ready for my MS test, but is one of everyday ups and downs in knifemaking.

When I really got serious about making, my ultimate goal at the time was to forge a Japanese sword. After an early attempt, I realized that even thoguh I had been forging since I was a kid, this was a whole different game. So the years went by and I worked slowly at the different facets involved in quality sword manufacture. I had just gotten my MS stamp, and felt pretty capable so i gave it another try....and another....and another...

I would either forge them too thin, or would find a bad weld, or the clay would fall off during heat treating. On my sixth attempt, I thought "this one may do it"

If any of you have either done or seen in person, clay tempering being done in a water quench, you are familiar with the noises and possibly what they mean. There are two cycles of boiling and hissing; once when the blade enters the water, a slight pause, and then a lower frequency rumbleing boil. It is this second phase when the bad stuff happens. The blade vibrates and bends ( the blade will bend towards the edge first, then slowly curve towards the back as the clay protected back cools.) This blade did fine on the first part of the quench, then as the second phase started, I felt some of the clay come off. I quickly removed the blade to avoid too much exposure to the water on unprotected steel. The curve in the blade was ALMOST even. (One way to tell if the quench went well is if there is an even curve the length of the blade). I ground the section whee the clay came off clean and etched it to reveal a very nice hamon. Seemed I did OK. With clay tempered swords, they never coem out dead straight, and if the curve is not just right, it can be adjusted either way. You can actually be pretty rough with them and hammer the back to lessen the curve, or localy heat small areas on the back and quickly quench that spot to increase the curve. I needed a little less in one spot, right before the section that the clay come off of. So tot he hammer I go. A few light blows and it was almost correct, then it wouldn't move any more. I take a slightly sharper blow,........and 8 inches of the tip goes flying into the corner. I was in such shock I actually turned in a circle and looked at the blade again to see if it really happened!!

Aftera ritualistic destruction of the blade into five peices, I took a look at the initial break. I found I had ground the wrong side clean to check the heat treatment. The grain structure revealed it was hardened all the way up one side, but only half way on the side I etched.

I had always heard Japanese smiths made a bunch of unsighned tanto....now I know why:p

I did get it right on attempt number 7, and still train with and enjoy the sword. I had it with me last year at Blade show, so some of you have seen it.

As for the five peices...I rewelded them and made a wakizashi that turned out great.
 
When you told me the sword story the first time I had tears in my eyes from laughing so hard. Cool that you shared it with the group.

I spent a bit of time with Bailey in Vegas a couple years back.He's absolutly a hoot to be around.Make sure you look him up at blade.The kid is good and will only get better.I predict he will be one of the Icons of knifedom.
Randy
 
Randy, you are correct! For those of you going to Blade, try to get Bailey and Flatgrind or Jan Dubois and Wade Coulter together. YOU WILL NOT STOP LAUGHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't wait!
 
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