MSR Windpro

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I'm not the biggest fan of IsoButane canister stoves, but they have a place. To me their only strength is their lightweight design. In the kind of environments I frequent, liquid fuel stoves have proven to be much better. I've generally slagged canister stoves on this forum b/c I've found my WindPro to be pathetic. Once when testing the old WindPro at 5000' in January, it took 45 mins to make [and boil] 2 litres from snow.

Funny story: I have always loved my MSR WindPro, but found it to be slooooooow. I had nothing to judge it against, this was my first experience with canister stoves. The flame looked fine to me, I just thought canister stoves were slower. 2 weeks ago, while deep in the backcountry of North Cascades NP, I decided to bring the WindPro instead of my XGK-EX b/c there would be lots of running water next to glaciers/snowfields and warmer weather. In a party of three, we also had an MSR Pocket Rocket. Very early on, it became apparent that the Pocket Rocket was literally smoking the WindPro [which shouldn't be the case]. When you're chatting with your buds over dinner and single malt, you lose track of boiling times etc. but both my friends flat-out said: there's something-up with that stove.

So, come Monday morning, I poured 1 litre of water into an MSR pot and placed it on the WindPro with a 3/4 full canister. It took 11:57 to boil a litre!!! Yup, something very wrong with that stove. MSR confirmed that it was indeed waaay out of "spec" and so I returned it to the place I bought it from, ponied-up a bit more cash [price had changed with the new WindPro] and was handed a new WindPro [with the swivel valve]. I calculated that the new stove was 58% faster. Still much slower than the XGK-EX, but much improved over the old one! I still prefer liquid fuel stoves generally, but this new WindPro has definitely changed my opinion some. The new swivel valve gives you better cold weather performance and you can grab every last bit of fuel in those canisters.

Moral of this story: if you pay good money for gear with great warranties, make sure it performs as it should. Not sure why I didn't deal with this before as I usually make avail of good warranties if a product falls short.
 
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What pot are you using? I use a Jetboil GCS pot with my Windpro and it has lightning fast boil times. On one backpacking trip one of the other guys had an MSR Reactor, which is supposed to be one of the fastest boilers on the market. My Windpro/GCS combo was just as fast. I normally get three minute boil times for one liter, and that's with cold water at high elevation in the Sierras.

It is also very efficient, for two people I get six full days out of one 8-oz canister, cooking breakfast and dinner. On my nine day trip this summer, the 2/3 full 8oz canister that we used from the beginning of the trip lasted five days. That was with us boiling half a liter in the morning, and close to 1.5 L (almost full pot) at night, with no simmering required for any of the meals.
 
me thinks you had a dud all along, my Windrpro boils very fast as well- I do like the new swivel so you can invert the canister at will- I turned the asembly on mine as I only use this stove in the winter/shoulder seasons (have several other stoves that are lighter I use in the summer) so I can use it inverted
 
What pot are you using?

Normally, I use an MSR Titan 2l pot in the backcountry. With the aluminum heat shield and trillium base. Titanium has very strange thermal properties. For the test, I used an MSR Blacklite aluminum pot. I used tap water and ran the test inside my house [no heat/wind shield]. MSR IsoButane - inverted. I live at about 700 feet.

me thinks you had a dud all along, my Windrpro boils very fast as well- I do like the new swivel so you can invert the canister at will- I turned the asembly on mine as I only use this stove in the winter/shoulder seasons (have several other stoves that are lighter I use in the summer) so I can use it inverted

This thread was largely written for you! You always praised the WindPro and I was always slamming it. But with almost a 12 minute boil time [for 1 litre] in my kitchen, I guess you can understand why I wasn't loving it. It took my friends to say WTF is up with your stove? Much happier now. I always suspected it was out of spec, but to be honest, the flame looked "normal", it just had reduced output. The new stove is much, much louder signifying greater output. I love the new valve, I used to invert the old stove too, but this makes it much easier and not a drop of fuel goes to waste.
 
very glad you got it resolved :) Titan 2 is the same pot I use as well

I called Cascade Designs about getting my Windpro retrofitted w/ the new valve and they said it wasn't possible :(

I do have to say that Cascade Designs (Therma-rest/MSR/Platypus) has always provided great customer service and stand firmly behind their products
 
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