Recommendation? Mtech spring opening safety issues

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I decided to try a low budget knife. So i bought a Mtech MX- A811. Tactical design, 440c steel and g10 handle. Very cheap, i bought it for less than 10€. For the buck, the knife seems to be good. If the blade is really 440c steel is ok. G10 handle is poorly finished but this is not important. This is a folder knife with a spring assisted opening and because of this is easy that the blade opens when in pocket or hooked to belt.
I wish to know some suggestion about avoid this issue, or it is this common to all spring loaded knifes?
The knife is this:
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Return it for refund. Not worth 10$

Nick Shabazz has some disassembly videos on yt while he makes fun of them. It's genius. Checkem out if you need some help.

Your issues is due to tip up carry. It's exactly an issue he explains in some of those vids. Flippers or assisted flippers should not be tip up.
 
I have a ton of flippers and some Benchmade assisted Knives that are tip up.
Never had a problem with them opening unless I wanted them open.
Assisted Knives that are well made are safe.
Sadly, K kar120c your knife is not a well made assisted opener.
Joe
 
I think your only solution would probably be to take the spring out, or make a lanyard that can loop over the thing and keep the blade closed.

In my opinion ( forgetting how much I dislike spring asst or flippers ) based on what I personally know of M-TECH knives this folder is not worth messing with.
There's a slight chance the blade is made of the Chinese equivalent to 440C, but you can guarantee it's not actually true 440C.
Btw I've had some of their knives with the exact same clip, and if the screws don't fall out first this clip will easily get bent open.
 
Mo2 said:
Return it for refund. Not worth 10$

Nick Shabazz has some disassembly videos on yt while he makes fun of them. It's genius. Checkem out if you need some help.

Your issues is due to tip up carry. It's exactly an issue he explains in some of those vids. Flippers or assisted flippers should not be tip up.
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Looked at some of these video and the look Horror Movies!!!
 
Here's another video of a similar knife design but it's not assisted and iirc running on bearings?


Basically unsafe poor design despite it actually having real s35vn based on the cut tests.
 
Mo2 said:
Return it for refund. Not worth 10$

Nick Shabazz has some disassembly videos on yt while he makes fun of them. It's genius. Checkem out if you need some help.

Your issues is due to tip up carry. It's exactly an issue he explains in some of those vids. Flippers or assisted flippers should not be tip up.
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NickShabazz's entire theory on why flippers shouldn't be tip down carried is based on a misunderstanding. He complains that the blade can open in your pocket because it is not against the seam. However he doesn't realize right handed tip down people carry their knives in their pocket against the opposite seam, the corner of the pocket closer to the zipper.

Tip up right handed carriers usually carry with their knife to the corner of the pocket closer to your hip. NickShabazz is mistakenly thinking people carry their tip down righty knives against this corner too.

@NickShabazz you hear that? I love you, but you were wrong on this one. However this position means the flipper tab is now oriented to the middle of the pocket, so I hope that inside seam keeps the knife shut!
 
I don’t know bout that Lapedog Lapedog
Tip down or up my knives always rest on the outside of the pocket.....furthest away from zipper.
Never had a problem.
Joe
 
palonej said:
I don’t know bout that Lapedog Lapedog
Tip down or up my knives always rest on the outside of the pocket.....furthest away from zipper.
Never had a problem.
Joe
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I'm not saying I agree with it. But the premise of Nick Shabazz's arguement is that if you carry a tip down knife so it is against the seam of your pocket closer to your hip then the blade is free to open up into the pocket. This is because the blade isn't be blocked from being opened by the fabric of a pocket seam.
 
Hi kar120c,

Thanks for sharing your experience with the M-Tech knife. Sadly, they're more of a hazard to carry and use than any usefulness they can provide. Knives are a tool that can cause a great deal of harm if they fail, and M-Techs more likely to fail in everyday use than other budget options.

I'd (we'd) like to guide you into a better selection for a budget blade. If you can tell us a bit about your knife needs and budget, I bet we can suggest something that's a much better option for you.

In the meantime, return the M-Tech if you can but if not, put it away where someone might not be likely to try and use it. Let's solve your knife needs together!
 
Lapedog said:
However he doesn't realize right handed tip down people carry their knives in their pocket against the opposite seam, the corner of the pocket closer to the zipper.
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Doesn't that make pocket carry a little odd since many pant pockets tend to angle towards the waist at that end? I could see certain knives in certain pockets sit kind of wonky and dangle in the middle because of this. Plus, that's getting awfully close to precious parts. :eek:

I haven't carried a tip down knife in years and never with any frequency so I'm kind of curious about this as I've never seen/heard of that before.
 
Put the knife in your pocket with the blade side against the edge of the pocket so it can't open. Or take out the spring. Or throw it in the trash and buy a decent knife.
 
Hackenslash said:
Hi kar120c,

Thanks for sharing your experience with the M-Tech knife. Sadly, they're more of a hazard to carry and use than any usefulness they can provide. Knives are a tool that can cause a great deal of harm if they fail, and M-Techs more likely to fail in everyday use than other budget options.

I'd (we'd) like to guide you into a better selection for a budget blade. If you can tell us a bit about your knife needs and budget, I bet we can suggest something that's a much better option for you.

In the meantime, return the M-Tech if you can but if not, put it away where someone might not be likely to try and use it. Let's solve your knife needs together!
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Thanks for the advice but I already have some serius knives: A Fox Karambit FX-599, a vintage Sog Stingray and a Spyderco Meerkat. I bought the Mtech for curiosity.
I don't want to return it because I want to try some mods. The knife flips around two teflon washers and these are the first parts to replace. Any advice about what washers or bearing can i use?
This morning I carried my Mtech in the woods and also if it sucks is photogenic:
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kar120c said:
Thanks for the advice but I already have some serius knives: A Fox Karambit FX-599, a vintage Sog Stingray and a Spyderco Meerkat. I bought the Mtech for curiosity.
I don't want to return it because I want to try some mods. The knife flips around two teflon washers and these are the first parts to replace. Any advice about what washers or bearing can i use?
This morning I carried my Mtech in the woods and also if it sucks is photogenic:
VKgQ1nc.jpg
hl0SRkz.jpg
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Your going to have to try various washers and find out what works. These don't have high tolerances hence why they are using nylon washers (and it's for cost savings). I doubt anyone's done it before. Get a Guage and find out the size of the Teflon and start there. If it's too thick when you get them use sand paper and go in a figure 8 pattern. Don't take off too much material and try again.
 
op why bother spending money modding what is a throwaway basically? i guess if ya want to just cause or for fun, so be it.
 
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