Mullien Stalk - What do I need?

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I am home on vacation (Michigan) and my father has about 100 straight mullein stalks in his front property.

What do I need - Dry and standing dead form last year - new this year and dry them - help me out.


They are new this year and some dead from last year.

Also - what hearts would you recommend from the Mid West area?

TF
 
I would say if you can find some of last years dry stalks use them. Ofcourse if you can't, drying some fresh ones may work. Sorry I can't be of more help; I have been unsuccesful at my hand drill attempts. If all else fails, you can make a neat fish poison from Mullein...

Good luck big guy!
 
Screw Mullein - get some last year's Teasel. You'll have to be selective, though, because being this old, most stalks will have cracked. This doesn't mean Mullein won't work, because it does, I just don't particularly like it. Having said that, Mullein might be a good choice now because its stalk probably aged better. (If this doesn't make any sense, it's because I just woke up)

If you go with Teasel, the thicker the wall thickness, the better. Also, the rounder the stalk is at the business end, the better - some stalks are more oval in shape. If you can't find any intact pieces that are long enough, you can always splice a tip on some other stalk.

As far as length, my technique is dictated by a herniated disc, so I choose a drill that is from ground to navel in height (41-42") (It's good to use body measurements for things, because you always have it with you :rolleyes: )

You want a drill that is large enough in diameter to oscillate easily, but not so big that, a- the friction is spread over too large an area on the hearth, and b-your speed is adversely affected.

The following are drill/hearth combinations that I have successfully used:

Teasel (Dipsacus syvestris)
Willow (Salix spp.), Cedar (Thuja occidentalis), Sumac (Rhus typhina), Cottonwood (Populus deltoides)

Burdock (Arctium lappa) [not recommended] on Willow.

Great Ragweed (Ambrosia trifida) on Willow, Sumac, Cedar.

Mullein (Verbascum thapsus) on Willow.

Sweet Clover (Melilotus - don't remember the species) on Willow, Cedar.

Sumac (spliced tip) on Willow.

Thistle (Cirsium vulgare) on Willow and Eastern Cottonwood.

Willow on Willow and Cottonwood.

Eastern White Cedar (T. occidentalis) [spliced tip] on Cedar.

Dogwood (Cornus - didn't note the species, though probably sericea) on Willow.

Eastern Cottonwood (P. deltoides) on Cottonwood and Cedar.

Jerusalem Artichoke (Helianthus tuberosus) [probably my all-time favourite] on Willow and Cedar.

Canada Goldenrod (Solidago canadensis) [stalks large enough in diameter not too common] on Willow.

Basswood (Tilia americana) on Basswood.

Cattail (Typha latifolia) on Cottonwood.

In case you're wondering, Tf, no, my memory isn't that good. I kept a log of my first 500 hand drill coals - materials used, weather conditions, any particular problems, state of sobriety :rolleyes:, - those kinds of things so I could go back for reference purposes (such as this post). This, I recommend to anyone for both bow drill and hand drill. Notes last longer than memory.

More recently, Basswood is my hearth of choice and Teasel for a drill, in part, because of availability, although Jerusalem Artichoke would be my first choice.

Since you live in Texas, a list that might be more appropriate for you was compiled by a late brother, Storm (AKA Firestorm). If you want the list, I'll look for a link.

Whew, now I'm almost awake.

Doc
 
The stalks have to be quite dry. You can cut your own when they are green and wait for them to dry.

When you tire of mullien, try dry cattail, thistle, or sunflower.

I have never tried hollyhock, but it looks promising.

Joe Pie Weed?
 
Doc,

I was beginning to think you would remember your first beer. Then I remembered that when you turned 21 they hadn't invented it yet....



water that is - which you need to make beer! ;)



I will try some willow and cedar (which I have at hand) and will select a bunch of green mulien for next years tests.

TF
 
Doc,

I was beginning to think you would remember your first beer. Then I remembered that when you turned 21 they hadn't invented it yet....



water that is - which you need to make beer! ;)



I will try some willow and cedar (which I have at hand) and will select a bunch of green mulien for next years tests.

TF

I think you're a bitter man.:( Is that in part because your parents weren't married? Oh well.-----

Grab some Teasel, as well.

Here's a link to friction fire combinations from south and west. Scroll down to Preferred Friction Fire Materials--Part 1 (NEW)...More Info! and also part 2.

Doc
 
You shut up Doc! You said you wouldn't tell!


Back to therapy I go...




I will grab some - I saw some in the neighborhood yesterday so I now know what I am looking for.

TF
 
TF,

If you're still interested in drying them out, you can't beat cutting them, running the spine of your knife over the shafts to smooth them out and then putting them on your dashboard in the sun. A day or two in the heat and they'll be good to go.

Kev
 
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