Mumbly Peg Game Research

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For many generations of American boys, a part of growing up has been their ownership of a simple, inexpensive jackknife. It was more than a toy, a symbol of their journey to manhood, a first real tool. Between the scales and liners it held the promise of adventure, utility, creativity, protection, and fun. American youth were an important target market for most cutlerys, as witnessed by surviving advertisements from the late 1800's through the 1960's. Even the military utility knives from the Second World War forward were styled after the familiar “Scout” knife, with it’s rich assortment of blades.

It was indeed a simpler age when a parent would trust a seven year old boy with his first knife, a real one with sharpened blades and no parental supervision, kevlar gloves, safety goggles, or even warning labels. Entry level knives were made with children’s budgets and eye appeal in mind. “Hero” knives were popular and nearly every company made a few emblazoned with Boone, Crockett, Hopalong Cassidy, the Lone Ranger.

These inexpensive knives like the Jackmasters (sometimes called “Tony Galentos”, after a squat prizefighter of the 1930's with a big round belly) were passports to adventure for many young boys. Apples and oranges, peanut butter sandwiches filled lunch sacks, not so much because we liked them, but because they offered us the opportunity to show off our dexterity with our new knives at school. Yep. At school. Peel an entire apple in one long thin strip. Slice an orange into eighths to demonstrate fractions in math class. Share your sandwich with your buds or favorite girl in grand fashion. And then there was recess!

Recess was where the creativity with the knife came into it’s own. Made-up games like stretch and chicken abounded, but Mumbly-Peg was the king of the playground.

So, what was the origin of Mumbly Peg? According to Webster's Online Dictionary "mumblety peg" or "mumble the peg" entered the English language around 1630. I’ve read speculation that it was originally an English sailor’s game, but also seen mention that it dates back to the early Greeks. This one came from a game rule sheet produced by Camillus accompanying their trademarked Mumbly Peg jackknife in 1959. American linguists have made an entire study or regional dialects, and variations of the name “Mumbly Peg” is one of the words they recorded. Here is one 2001 Harvard survey done in by Bert Vaux, professor of linguistics, now at University of Wisconsin:
Q: What do you call the game wherein the participants see who can throw a knife closest to the other person (or alternately, get a jackknife to stick into the ground or a piece of wood)?
a. mumblety-peg (8.07%)
b. mumbledy-peg (8.69%)
c. mumbly peg (10.84%)
d. mumbly pegs (0.47%)
e. mumblely peg (with 2 l's) (1.81%)
f. mumble peg (0.23%)g. mummety-peg (0.02%)
h. mumble-the-peg (0.00%)
i. fumbledy peg (0.00%)
j. numblety peg (0.22%)
k. peggy (0.02%)
l. baseball jackknife (0.16%)
m. stick-knife (1.01%)
n. stick-frog (0.16%)
o. stretch (1.14%)
p. chicken (2.94%)
q. knifey (0.11%)
r. splits (0.49%)
s. Russian roulette (1.90%)
t. I have never heard of this "game" and have no idea what it's called (51.32%)
u. other (state here if you have heard one or more of these terms but never knew what they meant) (10.39%)

Danial C. Beard, co-founder of the Boy Scouts of America (1850-1941) set down a list of rules for the game in his 1890 book “American boy’s Handy Book”, well illustrated with descriptions of the “Feats”. While he did not assign them all names, he showed a total of twenty four in order. The one actually given name was “plowing the field”.

If I understand correctly, Mr. Beard did his own illustrations. These are from the scout’s game book by Beard.



Camillus Cutlery, in a brochure accompanying their “Mumbly Peg” tangstamped jackknife in 1959, gave some of their 14 basic moves (some repeated left, right) names: Palm, Back, fists, cat’s cradle, high dive, through the well, pennies, nickels, Tony Chestnut, spank the baby, Johnny jump the fence, ears, over the shoulder, O-U-T OUT.



While Camillus copyrighted the name “Mumbly Peg” and used it as a tang stamp, other cutlerys also used variations of the name. A Kingston Stags Head knife had an attached rule sheet naming the game “Mumble-T-Peg”. An example may be seen in an article written in the March 2004 OKC Newsletter article by Bernard Levine.

Game rules established by the National Recreation Association named them (I kid you not!): Front, back, punch, snaps, seven pennies, around the horn, shave the peg, cut left, cut right, headings, chinnings, snaps, drop in and pull out, shave the barber, lady dives, pinwheel, kick ‘em out, cop’s club, Tony Chestnut, fingers, O-U-T Period. Their rules had 38 moves.

Each source also had it’s own variation of the involvement of the “Mumbling Peg”, from which the game seems to derive it’s name. Common to all versions, pulling a wooden peg from the ground with the teeth is the “punishment” for the loser. The size of the peg, the depth and method in which it is driven varies. Beard suggests that the peg is driven out of sight in the sod and the loser has to “root” for it while others chant “ROOT, ROOT!”. Camillus rules say the winner pounds the peg with three blows of the knife handle. Some references state it is three blows with the eyes open, then three with them closed. Variations abound, some specifying a 2" peg, some with differing number or type of blow for seating the peg. Some even omit the peg altogether, and play is for points according to how the knife lands. In this variation, the master blade is fully open, and the pen blade is half open.

Here are the Camillus feats:



I have an original photograph of five cowboys taking a break on the Turkey Track Ranch in Texas titled “A Mumble-Peg Game”. It was taken 1906 by E.E. Smith.



A few photos and many memoirs mention games of Mumbly Peg among soldiers and sailors during the Second World War. Here is one dated 1944.



And many a codger remembers the game as well, though there was no end to the variations to the “feats” and rules.

The following series of stunts is that considered as official by the National Recreation Association.

Penknife Rules (Long Game):

Front..--Knife on palm of right hand with blade toward finger tips, toss knife upward and inward causing blade to stick in ground.
Back.--Place knife on back of right hand and toss as for front.

Punch.--Make a fist with right hand. Place knife handle across the fingernails with blade toward thumb; twist hand quickly toward the left sticking blade into the ground.

Snaps.--Hold blade between thumb and forefinger of left hand with handle pointing toward the right. Strike the handle downward sharply with right hand, causing blade to stick into the ground.
Seven Pennies.--Hold blade between thumb and first finger of right hand with handle away from contestant and snap knife away from tosser, sticking it into the ground. This must be done seven times in succession.

Around the Horn.--Hold blade of knife between the index finger and thumb of right hand, as for Pennies, and swing the knife, with handle toward the ground, around the head from left to right; then snap away from tosser as in Seven Pennies.

Shave the Peg.--Place blade between the first and second fingers and hold with thumb, have handle pointing away from body and point of blade toward person tossing; snap knife away from tosser.

Cut Left.--Hold knife as for Pennies and snap downward across left arm striking left wrist with the right.

Cut Right.--Opposite to Cut Left.

Headings.--Same as for Seven Pennies except the handle of the knife is touched against the forehead before snapping.

Chinnings.--Same as Headings except that chin is touched with handle.

Snaps.--See Rule 4; must be done three times in succession.

Drop In and Pull Out.--Hold knife handle between thumb and forefinger of right hand and drop the knife through a hole made by touching the tips of the forefinger and thumb of the left hand. After blade sticks in ground, pull knife back through the hole by the blade with the handle touching ground and the index finger and thumb holding blade; snap as in Seven Pennies.

Shave the Barber.--Hold left hand with palm in and little finger toward the ground. Place knife flat against the palm of left hand with cutting edge toward tosser and handle toward the ground. With the fingers of the right hand pull blade of knife toward the contestant, giving a downward snap.
Lady Dives.--Hold right hand vertical with back of it toward the players; place point of knife against the heel of the hand and the handle against the fingertips; push upward and forward, giving a loop effect to the knife.

Pinwheel--With the handle at right angles to the right hand and the arm at right angles to the body, hold the point of the blade loosely between thumb and first finger; flip the knife toward the left with a downward push of the thumb.

Kick 'Em Out.--Place handle of knife flat on palm of left hand with the blade protruding over the little finger side; strike blade downward with right hand.
Cop's Club.--Hold knife as for Seven Pennies, but flip toward tosser. Immediately strike upward with same hand causing knife to spin in opposite direction.

Tony Chestnut.--Starting at toe place point of blade on end of shoe and snap away from player. Repeat same at knee, again at the chest, and then from front part of the head. The toe may be elevated and the point of the knife may be placed against thumb when snapping from chest.

Fingers.--Same as Pennies except that the blade is held between the thumb and each finger consecutively and two snaps are made with the first finger and thumb and one with the second, third and little fingers.
Johnny Jump the Fence.--Stick knife into ground at an angle and about one foot away place left hand with palm toward the knife and little finger touching the ground; with the right hand strike the knife up and forward, causing it to go over the left hand or fence and stick into the ground.

O-U-T Period.--Place point of knife on left wrist and with right thumb and forefinger on top of knife snap to ground; at the same time say "0," repeat at elbow and say "U," repeat at shoulder and say "T." Make a fist as in "Punch" and place knife along fingernails with blade toward little finger side; twist wrist inward quickly and say "period." These last four stunts must be performed consecutively in order to complete the game.

Michael
 
Wow, that seems like something from Bizarro world, but I guess that was what it was like before Pac-Man. :D

I can't imagine playing that game with a mother-of-pearl Schrade, or some $300 tacticool knife.

I guess that shows how the knife has evolved from an everyday, "throw-away" item to a collector piece...

Great research as always, Mike.

Glenn
 
Very interesting- The only real knife type of game I played was a game my dad always called stretch. You would stand with your feet together face to face with another person and keep throwing the knife outsid there feet attempting to make it stick. if you did they had to move there foot to where it stuck. eventually resulting in falling down or not being able to stretch any further. Dad said they played it when they were kids and there was other rules but he couldnt remember how to play. maybe this is it. I will have to see if he still wants to play... He's only 57 and recovering from a knee replacement... andvantage gradall. thanks for the info -Joel
 
I spent many summer evenings playing Mumbly Peg with my friends we all had pocket knives. We also played stretch. In that game you threw your knife near your friends foot and he had to put his foot on the spot the knife stuck in the ground. You gradually threw the knife farther away until someone could stretch no farther and fell down. Of course if your knife did not stick there was no move. Time frame 1961-64. Yes there was a few cuts some foot sticks but it was all in good fun.
 
I remember many a game of barlow baseball when I was growing up. Pen blade at half stop, point on index finger of left hand, master blade extended full. Flip the knife so that the knife sticks, with how it stuck determining the type of hit...

Clip sticks, nothing else touches- single
Pen and clip stick (or just leaning on the clip)- double
Pen sticks, leaning on the cap end- triple
Pen sticks, nothing else touches- home run
NO stick, no base. :)

Classic 3 outs, lots of games ending in 2-1 or 3-2 scores.

Played many a game. :D
 
Boy Codger you bring back some good memories. Yes, we did play that during recess and the nuns didn't care if you can believe that. We all had a pocket knife and knew how to use it or we caught you know what at home. TRUST was the name of the game! Mumbledy Peg was our version.
 
My dad told me about playing stretch as a kid, but forbade me to ever throw my knife at the ground. "It'll ruin it," he said. The other kids at my schools mostly didn't carry knives like I did, so I would have had no one to play with, anyway.
 
Codger, thanks for the history lesson:D , we always called it Mumbly Peg and by the time I was payin' for my own knives at 11 or 12 years old, I wasn't so keen on stickin' in the dirt.;)

Now I gotta find me one of them Mumbly Peg stampings.
 
Wow, that seems like something from Bizarro world, but I guess that was what it was like before Pac-Man. :D

I can't imagine playing that game with a mother-of-pearl Schrade, or some $300 tacticool knife.

I guess that shows how the knife has evolved from an everyday, "throw-away" item to a collector piece...


Glenn, today's world where a boy's pocketkinfe, jack or barlow, is considered a weapon is Bizarro for many of us. So is the notion that we have to lock our houses and take the keys out of our cars in our own driveways!

I don't remember any boys at my school ovning fancy knives. A good Barlow could be bought for under a dollar (a carton of milk was 5 cents), and a cheapo like an Imperial or Colonial could be had for around fifty cents. They were good enough quality for young boys who would play games, whittle whirley-gigs to impress the girls, and cut fish bait. Really chep knives came from Woolworth's 5 & 10 store. These were cheapest stamped tin and mostly made in Japan. I didn't buy those. Dad would have thrown it away. He had hard thoughts toward the Japanese after his experiences with them in WWII as a teen. We owned no Japanese electronics or cars either.

I don't know so much about knives being "throwaway" items, but they were an integral part of our everyday lives back then. After all, they were a boy's first real tool. Sticking one in the dirt hardly ever destroyed one. In fact, we did that to clean worm and fish guts from the blades from time to time. And growing up in the Missisippi River Delta, hitting a rock wasn't an issue. If you saw a rock, it was imported from elsewhere!

Michael
 
I don't know so much about knives being "throwaway" items, but they were an integral part of our everyday lives back then. After all, they were a boy's first real tool. Sticking one in the dirt hardly ever destroyed one. In fact, we did that to clean worm and fish guts from the blades from time to time. And growing up in the Missisippi River Delta, hitting a rock wasn't an issue. If you saw a rock, it was imported from elsewhere!

An urban legend I learned as well, although we stuck ours in and out of wet sand, if available, to clean. Alway nice to get that grit down inside the knife. Then you swished it around in the creek, before wiping the blade off on the back pocket of your Levi's.

Mine was a black plastic Camillus with a gold cub scout emblem.



The punch stuck good in mumbley peg, but didn't give you good balance when throwing.
 
Yup, played stretch as a kid (shown by my dad) and a variant where you had to toss the knife and stick closest to your own foot. I can't remember the rules of that one, but I got pretty good and only stuck a boot (no injury) once.

The good old days...
 
I played Mumbledepeg, but only with about 10 moves. Stretch was played too, but we called it chicken.
 
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