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Captain Ron

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I was wondering if any one has watched the knife sharpening DVD by Murray Carter? I thought all these years I had sharp knives but after watching this video I realize I have been using dull knives all my life. When he used the three finger sharpness testing my hair on the back of my neck stood up :eek: But after carefully trying his method of testing I came realize my hair popping edges were not that sharp I highly recommend his video only wish I could free hand it as good as he does.
 
He also uses top of the line water stones. Didn't see dvd but I know Murray and he knows what he is doing. Where did you get The DVD???
 
I haven't seen his DVD but I did get a quick lesson in sharpening form him at the NYCCKS in November. Yes using his standars make many knives seem dull, by comparison anyway, but his method takes a lot of skill. I think basically for my purposes, at least until I get a set of good waterstones and much much more practice, a guided system will give better results.
 
I saw it in a article in Tactical knives and I found that http://www.kellamknives.com/ had them but it is not listed on there web sight so I called them and ordered it. Very interesting DVD. Good service from Kellam knives Ordered it on Sat. recieved it on Wed.
 
db It is the method he uses for testing sharpness of the blade. Most people use there thumb or shave hair to test sharpness he uses three fingers care must be used doing this for safety. I am not going into detail for safety sake. After trying this method it is the most accurate method to test sharpness that I have tried. In fact even though I have every one of my knives hair popping sharp by using a belt sander and buffer none even came close to his kind of sharpness :eek: I was very disappointed at my results after watching this DVD. Even though I have been sharpening for many years! The belt sander and buffer actually round off the very tip of the blade to look more like the tip of a ball point pen instead of a perfect v shape my brand new never used Spyderco and Sebenza even failed this test for sharpness. :eek: In fact in my many years of buying and sharpening knives I doubt if I ever have come across a knife of his level of sharpness even in new high dollar factory knives or customs and I've own more than a few!
 
Murray Carter gave a 30 minute seminar on sharpening at last year's Blade Show that actually ended up lasting a good 2 hours. The technique he teaches is really quite basic; not all that different than how I was taught as a kid. His skill level, on the other hand, is unreal.
 
can someone please post how the 3 finger sharpness is done? if it's not safe to post in public, could someone email me offline... how do I get the DVD? anyone have murray carter's email / website?
 
I've read quite a bit about Murray in Tactical Knives.......I think to ease my curiousity, I'll just HAVE to get that DVD.
 
dsvirsky said:
Murray Carter gave a 30 minute seminar on sharpening at last year's Blade Show that actually ended up lasting a good 2 hours. The technique he teaches is really quite basic; not all that different than how I was taught as a kid. His skill level, on the other hand, is unreal.
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I was at that one! Not only does he achieve an 'interesting' level of sharpness on his knives, but he's an outstanding lecturer and communicator!
 
can someone please post how the 3 finger sharpness is done? if it's not safe to post in public, could someone email me offline... how do I get the DVD? anyone have murray carter's email / website?
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I think you try to chop off three of your fingers. If you succeed and you don't feel the blade, then it's acceptably sharp. If you feel it while you're doing it, then you have some more sharpening to do.
 
Chiro75 said:
I think you try to chop off three of your fingers. If you succeed and you don't feel the blade, then it's acceptably sharp. If you feel it while you're doing it, then you have some more sharpening to do.
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damn, I just realised I've been typing the past hour with only 7 fingers...where're the other three??? :p golly....my calypso jr must be murray-carter sharp!!!
 
Hopefully the blood won't short out your keyboard! Unfortunately you can only test three knives this way, so better make 'em count! You could use the three-toe test, but it's far less accurate in my opinion.
 
Captain Ron said:
db It is the method he uses for testing sharpness of the blade. Most people use there thumb or shave hair to test sharpness he uses three fingers care must be used doing this for safety. I am not going into detail for safety sake. After trying this method it is the most accurate
Are you joking? This is a knife forum for goodness sakes. Anyone else know what this three finger test is?
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db No I not joking yes I know this a knife forum thats why I posted here! Not every uses common sense and anybody can read this forum of any age. And when I watched Murray test the knives I was shocked until I under stood what he was doing. And if you now what to feel for and look for it is fairly safe ;) And just because your knives shave arm and cuts paper does not mean they are sharp as they can be they are just starting to get sharp at that level of sharpness :(
I'm sure I'm not the only one to see him test either in person or on DVD to test a knife sharpness and they can explain better than I.
 
Anyone else, who isn't too scared to tell what this sharpness test is?
 
Ron I'm sure your not the only one. However, your the first one I've seen to say it is the most accurate method to test sharpness that
you have tried.
 
db said:
Anyone else, who isn't too scared to tell what this sharpness test is?
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OK, but don't blame me when you cut yourself. :p

Place your thumb on the spine of the blade -- this allows for fine control of the amount of pressure you're going to exert. Now, place the index, middle, and ring finger tips on the edge of the blade. Using the least amount of pressure necessary to maintain contact, run your finger tips along the edge of the knife (not across, along, as in from ricasso to point). If you've achieved "Murray Carter" sharp, the edge will grap the skin; otherwise, the edge will feel almost slippery as your finger tips move up and down the edge.

This test illustrates the difference between achieving a perfect "V" with your edge and having a slightly rounded edge. How much difference this makes in real world application is something for you to decide for yourself.
 
When I was in high school some of my friends talked about a 3-finger test, but, again, I don't think it was the same thing.
 
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