my 1st china buck

[110 Dave]

well i got one as a gift at last....
my father in law gave me a china buck this past week a 379.
he got it on sale and i know he did not know it was made in china as he was stressing it to me that it was
"... a damm good buck knife",,, and he got it and another on a clearance for 3 $ each!! a " ...brand new buck knife for 3 $ can you belive it... so i got you one too..."... he likes the price he paid for this pair and i must say it was a good price and is cheaper for the quality then other china knives i have seen...

i did not tell him that it was a made in china knife and that that was why it was "..such a good price,,,, ". well i did not through it away or give it back... jest put it in my pocket to take fishing... likely will end up in tackel box ... but i did look at it.

report is: first the bolt cutting logo is jest not right, it looks diffrent then triaditional and looks 'funny' as in odd... with its details off or wrong.

it does not look like a buck in the blade shape... or when the blade is open in the grinding angles... seems to be shaped funny to me again as in 'odd'.... cuts OK like many others.. it is sharper then it feels so it is sharp ! but it will need sharping quikly from use,,, it will only take a few times of heavy sharpening as you would have to do to get a nick out to have the point not be in side the liners as it is barly in them now... steel seems to be ok also. dont know what steel it is or how hard it will be to sharpen...

the knife opens smothly as a slip joint should and is easy to open....the recusso stamping is cheeper looking then bucks i know and love from the US- not sharp at all and blury/fuzzy on the edges but readable- so the stampings make it look cheepr then it is...wood fit is ok and fit of metal parts is realy good and again better then i expected ... overall the quality realy is much better then i expected and it is over all a much nicer "then i expected" knife but still not what i what i want to call a buck even tho it has some of bucks quality....nothing to brag about for every day carry for sure tho. but you wont miss it much if the airport security finds you forgot to leave it at home.

in summary- if you want a cheep knife that if you loose it you wont cry and you are going to have a china made knife anyways ... then the china buck seems to have the quality you realy want for a realy cheep price !

i realy cant complain for the price but i still would would rather have Americian product with USA on it ...

 

[Bob W]

$3? Closeout? Logo looks wrong?

Makes me skeptical that it's an authorized Buck knife. Since they've only been making Bucks in China for a short time, I'd be suprised if there are models being closed out already. The Buck website contains no information on model #379.

After the Buck Knife designs were sent to the licensed Chinese factory, it probably took ten minutes for a dozen other Asian factories to start producing "Buck" knives.

I'm guessing your father-in-law doesn't know any more about knives than mine does.

-Bob

 

[110 Dave]

as i understood he got it at wally world (wallmart) .... and the logo looks jest like the one in the other post that has a picture... still looks like a knock off logo even tho i did not say that, but it is in a buck box with the correct paperwork and all ... if a knock off it is a damm good one and what did buck expect from china *** many other companes have had bad experances with china production and it is not so much with sales here rather sales in rest of free world!! like i said - i rather have USA on a Americian product even if it not as good maby ...

 

[JD Mandrell]

$3? Closeout? Logo looks wrong?

Makes me skeptical that it's an authorized Buck knife. Since they've only been making Bucks in China for a short time, I'd be suprised if there are models being closed out already. The Buck website contains no information on model #379.

The 379 is the "solo", it is the new single blade small pen knife made in China for Buck, I bought one about a month ago and wal-mart and have been using is since, and the fit and finish on mine is perfect, the wood scales are very well done, and the 440C blade was razor sharp and has held that edge quite well.

 

[Bob W]

I'm naturally a skeptical sort, especially in this instance I saw red flags. Sometimes being skeptical works out, sometimes not.

Odd how the knife isn't mentioned at the Buck website, and didn't show up on any of the knife retailers' sites. Maybe a Wal-Mart exclusive?

-Bob

 

[JD Mandrell]

I'm naturally a skeptical sort, especially in this instance I saw red flags. Sometimes being skeptical works out, sometimes not.

Odd how the knife isn't mentioned at the Buck website, and didn't show up on any of the knife retailers' sites. Maybe a Wal-Mart exclusive?

-Bob

I thought they were a wal-mart exclusive until I found the 379 solo on Smokey Mountain Knifeworks's website. I've noticed in the past that Buck is not the fastest at keeping their website updated.

Now if the custom shoppe wold just re-open!!!

 

[silenthunterstudios]

They look fine to me, but that didn't make me buy one. Leave it in your tackle box like you said and don't tell your father in law the truth about it. If he starts asking why it isn't your EDC every time he sees ya, then tell him...

 

[110 Dave]

yep is jest what i am doing and he put his in his tackel box, i still have to find a 3 bladed 700 style knife but dont know the model numbers....

 

[JD Mandrell]

For the life of me, I still can't understand the rampant "anti-china knives" stuff when everyone of them are using personal computers made or most of the parts were made there?

 

[WilltheBarb]

I think I get it...
I hate my computer but I love my knives. Its even worse because the computer helps pay for the knives.

 

[silenthunterstudios]

For the life of me, I still can't understand the rampant "anti-china knives" stuff when everyone of them are using personal computers made or most of the parts were made there?

I was looking at one the other night at Wally World and was really likin it... but I just couldn't get my eyes away from the big MADE IN CHINA label .

 

[JD Mandrell]

I was looking at one the other night at Wally World and was really likin it... but I just couldn't get my eyes away from the big MADE IN CHINA label .

But why didn't that stop you from buying your PC?

I actually am not trying to start a flame war, I am sincerely curious why people think knives or whatever they are personally into "must" be american made, but yet on other things they overlook it?

 

[bbb4u]

For the life of me, I still can't understand the rampant "anti-china knives" stuff when everyone of them are using personal computers made or most of the parts were made there?

I see this as loyalty to tradition, a quest for quality, with a strong dose of Patriotism. 40 years ago, few Americans would drive an imported automobile but look what we see on the roads today! Time and experience can make dramatic changes in opinions and preferences. If China proves it can consistantly produce knives that are equal to or better than USA knives, we could see a shift in consumer attitude. So far, the knives I've seen from China might find a place in a tackle box, but not for my EDC or my valued Collection that consistantly increases in value.

 

[T Schloz]

For the life of me, I still can't understand the rampant "anti-china knives" stuff when everyone of them are using personal computers made or most of the parts were made there?

TLC

I think that it is a matter of expectations. I guess buying a Buck with a made in China stamp is like buying an American flag with a made in China tag on it.
I know my computer is made in China and a lot of other things around here as well, but I guess it's just tradition that a Buck is to be made in the USA.

Tom

 

[JD Mandrell]

TLC

I think that it is a matter of expectations. I guess buying a Buck with a made in China stamp is like buying an American flag with a made in China tag on it.
I know my computer is made in China and a lot of other things around here as well, but I guess it's just tradition that a Buck is to be made in the USA.

Tom

Hey Tom, I guess that does make sense to me in some manner, some companies such as Buck have such a long history in America that I can see how it seems to have more impact when folks see their products foreign made. PC's companies didn't have much time to build that legacy before the foreign market caught up, so it seems less shocking to see their PC's.

It's one of those funny little quirks of "free market" econimics I guess. We think we want it, until it hits us in what we see as a negative way, then we re-think it.

 

[Bob W]

For the life of me, I still can't understand the rampant "anti-china knives" stuff when everyone of them are using personal computers made or most of the parts were made there?

Just to clarify, not all computers are not made in China. Checking a few components I've recently purchased, most are Made in Taiwan. Some in Malaysia, and some in China. Many processors are still made in the US.

The difference to me, Chinese-made computer components are indistinguishable from components of other origins. My Dell Axim handheld made in China is equal in quality and features to any other PDA. The same isn't true of Chinese knives.

Also, dozens of Chinese factories aren't producing "Dill Axum" PDAs with 'borrowed' designs.

-Bob

 

[110 Dave]

yes I can understand market driven demand for cheaper over sea's stuff and some times it is a great value like the above knife but I agree with the rest of the American loving / flag waving / make it here folks...

""Originally Posted by The Last Confederate-:-:
For the life of me, I still can't understand the rampant "anti-china knives" stuff when everyone of them are using personal computers made or most of the parts were made there?"" I guess that does make sense to me in some manner, some companies such as Buck have such a long history in America that I can see how it seems to have more impact when folks see their products foreign made. PC's companies didn't have much time to build that legacy before the foreign market caught up, so it seems less shocking to see their PC's.
It's one of those funny little quirks of "free market" economics I guess. We think we want it, until it hits us in what we see as a negative way, then we re-think it.””

I hate to see it now I hated to see it years ago when I was alarmed at the time that no TV’s were made in the USA any more (we still made computers then) and our national defense was becoming and is now is dependant on CRT and flat screens and electronic quality made and supplied by far-east countries! !....so the electronics with which we defeated sadam are not made here.... the trade off ? we license [Yes but only with the politically demanded permission of the Japanese govt. ] all our stealthy tech... it was developed there to prevent ghost reception in big city's... i only want to be able to buld what we need to defend US aganist who ever we may have to ...even if it is us against the world...

To me Buck going ‘Free Market’ with overseas production under jest the name of BUCK is only a bit of selling cheaply the name (yes and the image) that was made here ] and...I - I only wish they had some how made the over seas ones under say "buck international' or "buck world” knives" I would not mind much having an "International" Buck Knife if it is not a thing to be ashamed of but- - -its is jest that with the way they are going about trying to hide it, {like Hardly Davidson does} it is like it is something to be ashamed of … and is it? if not… be up front with it... . Again correct me if I am wrong - did they not proudly advertise the ‘Swiss Army Buck’ collaborations? I rest my case… :footinmou ?

I guess, my Last Confederate friend, that it is that many are feeling bucks apearent hesitation and shame with them attempts as hiding it and don’t want something that someone else feels needs to be hidden. Of course some are like me and miss the old days of innocence…
Yours dave usn ret

 

[matt321]

My 2 cents...

I bought a Gerber Parrish Bird Knife last month. I was aware that the knife was made in Taiwan as indicated on the blister pack. However, I was surprised to see that there is no country of origin shown anywhere on the knife itself. At least Buck isn't doing that!

It's a free-for-all market out there in the merchandise world. Buck is fighting a good fight to stay competitive. The last British car manufacturer, MG-Rover, went under this week. American car makers have their on problems. The world we grew up in is changing fast!

 

[Ryan8]

For the life of me, I still can't understand the rampant "anti-china knives" stuff when everyone of them are using personal computers made or most of the parts were made there?

There simply aren't any complete computer systems that are made in the US.

Even if you get a computer that is assembled in the US, I can guarantee that the motherboard, the memory, various microchips or whatever were made in a foreign country.

China makes some pretty good electronics. I've seen some nice LCD monitors made there.

In my experience, the knives leave much to be desired.

 

[Mick57]

But why didn't that stop you from buying your PC?

I actually am not trying to start a flame war, I am sincerely curious why people think knives or whatever they are personally into "must" be american made, but yet on other things they overlook it?

Because with knives, we have a choice to buy American. With computers we don't. Seems pretty simple to me. And like others have said, there are too many cheap, poorly made China knives flooding the market that I've seen. And so whenever I pick up any China made knife, that's what I perceive it to be. The China made Buck's may be OK, but it's pretty hard to overcome that perception with all the Chinese made JUNK in this country. But it probably sells because the price is right.

"Americans know the price of everything, & the value of nothing"
Not my quote.