My first metal handled Spyderco in 20 years.

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My new Ti handled ATR was delivered a few days ago. It is the first metal handled Spyderco I have acquired in, at least 20 years. I have a few, early, SS handled Spydercos as well as others from different manufacturers. I also have some steel and Ti. handled knives from "custom makers", most with integral locks of some kind.
I like the concept; the strength and simplicity; But good grip has almost always been lacking unless these metal handles were sharply grooved or textured some way.

FIRST IMPRESSIONS:
All I can say is, I am impressed. The ATR's relatively smooth handle really does provide a solid grip because of the choil, pinky shelf and the swell in-between. In addition, the handle is long enough to allow optimal placement of the rear spacer pins for greatest strength. This is in contrast to the concept of trying to fit the longest blade into the shortest handle and thus, IMHO, compromising strength. The handle is beefy enough to be very rigid.

Time will tell how the compression lock holds up but right now, there is no blade play in any direction while the knife is open. I like the stop pin on the inside of the spring, preventing it from ever being pulled too far outward, causing loss of tension. There is a shallow cutout in the bottom of the ricasso which engages the spring compression insert in the closed position and provides good initial resistance when opening the blade. This safety feature should last the life of the knife. There are no (IMO) annoying resistance points in between the open and closed positions.

The blade: It came out of the box super sharp. I am impressed by the amount of useful belly. And it is nice to know there is extra steel at the point. I also like the cobra hood for ease of opening and control in use. I have not tried it yet, but think the blade will work well in hunting as well as most utility tasks, even though it was designed primarily as a tactical folder.

Personally I would like to see a more springy clip; There are various ways of doing this. But overall, I love the knife. Everything is executed with near-perfection; Better than many "custom" models costing much more. Grind lines are clean and even and the holes look great as well as removing some weight. I feel this will be my new fav folder for a long time.....unless it comes out in some improved blade steel (ZDP?) whose performance turns out to live up to the hype.

QUESTION: Does anyone have any further information on who designed this knife and how it was designed? Any feedback on experience with compression locks?...etc.
...Ron
 
Sal Glesser designed the ATR himself. It was sort of an exercise in design, to emulate the same philosophy that Gaston Glock put in his handgun designs; reliable, functional and with the least amount of parts possible. The design was offered to Glock, they turned it down (didn't want to add knife designs to their line in general, so no complaints against this particular design), and Sal decided to make it himself. We're all pretty happy that he did. The tip design is also intended for finger placement on that part of the spine, for increased control in fine cutting jobs. The fin also provides extra tip-strength. I'm sure it won't be too long before I too have an ATR. Glad to see you like yours.

Wouter
 
.......Thanks for enlightening me Wouter. Looking forward to your thoughts when you get your ATR. :D

.......I would be interested if anyone with experience cares to comment on how the compression lock holds up under long, hard use.
...Ron
 
i have a SS and ti ATR both are very good knives the ti is my edc right now, have had them for a while and the lock is holding up just fine on both.

oh and as far as the compression i had a gunting i edc'd for almost a year and used fairly hard, again no problems witht the lock.
 
Hi Edgy Codger.

Welcome to the Spyderco forums. Glad you like your new toy.

The "Compression lock" was the first of 3 new locks we received patents on in the past 5 years As with all new concepts, time, attention, feedback and refinement will evolve the concept.

Thanx for the input on the "more spring" in the clip. I'm assuming you mean stiffer or better holding power?

We're always refining and improving our designs, so any feedback would be appreciated.

sal

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Sal Glesser said:
Thanx for the input on the "more spring" in the clip. I'm assuming you mean stiffer or better holding power?

Hi Sal:
I mean a clip which can be spread relatively far from the handle and still snap back without loss of spring tension. One way of achieving this can be seen on some of Darrell Ralph's Ti handled folders. He doubles the clip over (in a U-bend) above its attachment point.
I have found this type of clip will still press hard against the handle slab even, for example, after being clipped to a thick leather belt and being pulled out in an awkward manner. One tries to avoid things like this but Murphy's law is always in effect.

One more suggestion? I feel the spring could use some serrations or grooves on the inside just behind the compression insert. IMHO, this would give better purchase for a righty when closing the knife one handed, using forefinger on spring and thumb in hole. It would help the forefinger not to slide up when pushing down with the thumb to close the blade.

Please don't get me wrong. The ATR is a great knife and I plan to use it and admire it for a long time.
.....Ron
 
SIFU1A said:
i have a SS and ti ATR both are very good knives the ti is my edc right now, have had them for a while and the lock is holding up just fine on both.

oh and as far as the compression i had a gunting i edc'd for almost a year and used fairly hard, again no problems witht the lock.

Thanks for thed feedback SIF. It's always interesting to hear from someone who has actually used the knives and has experience.
.....Ron
 
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