My first Nihonto. Check it out!

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Just wanted to share some pics and a story of a Nihonto that I got… I know it's shoptalk, but I wanted you all specifically to see it.

My in-laws had a sword in their closet. I first saw it on Washington state, before they moved to Hawaii. It moved with them.

I inquired about it and even went so far as to use my Yumoto book to translate three kanji on the tang as “Kanenori, Mino.”

Later they found the papers that came with it, signed by Hakusui Inami in Japan. The papers stated it was made in “Keichiyo Era.” (Keicho, 1592-1610.)

When I took it out again last year in Hawaii, the blade had rusted much more. I was worried about it. Since these guys live in Kaneohe, which is near Honolulu, I searched around and found Robert Benson. I called him, and explained that I hoped I could have him take a quick look at it and give me some advice about halting the damage. He said to come on over.

We drove out to his house and studio in beautiful Manoa. A nice and knowledgeable guy, he told me it appeared authentic and filled me in on some details like Keichiyo - Keicho, and remarked in general about it – suguha hamon, etc.

He told me that it would cost in the neighborhood of probably $1800+ to fully polish it, and that in present condition it was worth probably $1500 or so. After polish, he said it would depend what had emerged to finally value it. No matter, it’s staying in the family, it’s just good to get an idea.

He told me if I wanted to take the brown rust layer off, to use fine sandpaper- he told me 400 grit, I used 1000 since I have it and am cautious!

When I took it back to Kaneohe and related the conversation, my wife’s folks said that that they had decided to give it to me, since I would be able to take care of it better than they. I was floored, and agreed to act as it’s custodian.

Enough words, here are some pics. They first show the blade in the condition it was in, and then after 1000 grit rust removal.

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It has WWII era army mountings, with a family crest. The saya is separating and needs to be taken apart, cleaned, and re-glued. Not sure how to do this with lacquered wood, other than totally stripping and re-lacquering it.

The blade itself did not actually pit under the rust as badly as I had feared. I am guessing it would need to be brought back to binsui or kaisei, not arato- but what do I know. There are a couple of small weld flaws visible in the ha near the habaki. The habaki itself looks older and nicer than the gunto furniture, and IIRC Robert Benson said so.

Anyway, thanks for looking, tell me what you think, I’d love to get this polished one day and would probably get Robert Benson to do it when that day comes… I really appreciated his help and want to go back and see his studio next time. (It was being worked on when we visited.)
 
Good save Salem, thats really cool. Regardless of if its worth $400 or $4000 when said and done I think its still cool having a little piece of history especially one like that. Now you gotta study up on polishing it yourself and maybe give it a try. Ofcourse I say that but I would probably be to scared to touch it lol.
 
Very cool Salem.

I would write up a history of the blade with as much info as you can, and store a set of care instructions with it. ;) I am sure you would like it to survive for centuries more after you and the rest of us are long gone.
 
You did a beautiful job.Unreal to think it's so old.What a treasure.It seems it would be of much greater value,and to you i know it is which is all that matters.Nice to be able to skip off to Hawaii to visit the inlaws too!
 
definatly get it polished, it will not only make it look like it should but also help preserve the blade. Make sure you put some mineral oil on it until then.
Great looking sword.
 
Somehow the Universe feels just a little more right after reading that. I mean ... a daughter, a sword. My Pops would say pull your hat down tight - and get your priorities straight here...

I imagine the original smith would be honored to know his work found its way to your hands.

Congrats Salem!
 
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Sweet! I just got my first Nihinto too! That's a dangerous bug to catch. It's easily as expensive as learning to make knives!
I assume you didn't sand the nakogo? :-o
From the little I know Bob Benson is one of the few reputable polishers in America.

If you want any more info post up on the Nihonto Message Board. The guys there are amazingly knowledgable.
 
I have a few. I have handled hundreds (benifits of Japan for sure). The best ones are the ones that were not meant for 'display' but for actual combat (ie not made in the EDO peroid). I have one that has been through battle and you can see the scars. It feels powerful to hold a blade that actually killed for its living. You can get 'worn out' swords pretty cheap. They are ones that have retired from use but the history they tell. Being used in combat... Really Amazing.
 
That's a beautiful sword you've got there — and it looks like it's in great shape, aside from the rust. How long did it take you to clean it up with 1000g? Did you use a hard back or a soft back for the sandpaper? Might as well take it up to 6000 while you're at it!

- Chris
 
I just used my thumb under the paper mostly, just going light and being very careful to be easy on the shinogi ji and the yokote. No, I didn't sand the nakago. I did wire brush it just a bit and applied some oil to it- just to get the bad surface rust off of it without affecting the underlying ancient rust. When I first looked at it, the Kanji were quite clear- but this time around, they were a bit buried under new rust.

I don't know that I see anything on it that would qualify as a battle scar, but it is interesting to me that it was made possibly just before the battle of Sekigahara and the establishment of the Tokugawa shogunate, and the dawn of the Edo period. I've seen enough samurai flicks to be able to hold this blade and imagine back to that time... which I try to do every now and then. It's a newfound inspiration as a smith.
 
I also recommend having the polish restored. It will make a stunning improvement. The money will seem like a lot, but the increase in value as well as aesthetics will be worth far more.

While at the togishi, have shirasaya made for it. Only store and transport the blade in that except when on full display.

When back from polish, send it to the NBTHK/NTHK for origami.

As suggested, make a book for the sword with the authentication papers and all other papers in plastic pockets. Write up and print out the sword's history known to date, including your family's history with the sword ( closets and all). Using a parchment look paper and a font like Matura, Orient, or Old English really makes the documents look good. This book should be kept with the sword, and digital copies of it and all papers kept on electronic media and/or the cloud. The book should be a suitable match for the sword. Woodburned cedar covers with brass hinges on the front cover would be great. Use brass Chicago screws to bind it together. To make it more authentic, it should open from the left.

Make a kake that will display the unmounted blade ( in shirasaya or bare blade) and have a tray on the base for the koshirae. Clean every four to six months with uchiko and re-apply choji oil.
 
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I just used my thumb under the paper mostly, just going light and being very careful to be easy on the shinogi ji and the yokote. No, I didn't sand the nakago. I did wire brush it just a bit and applied some oil to it- just to get the bad surface rust off of it without affecting the underlying ancient rust. When I first looked at it, the Kanji were quite clear- but this time around, they were a bit buried under new rust.

I don't know that I see anything on it that would qualify as a battle scar, but it is interesting to me that it was made possibly just before the battle of Sekigahara and the establishment of the Tokugawa shogunate, and the dawn of the Edo period. I've seen enough samurai flicks to be able to hold this blade and imagine back to that time... which I try to do every now and then. It's a newfound inspiration as a smith.

YIKES! Do nothing to the nakago !!!! a little oil is fine but DO NOT remove the rust. Leave that part to the pros.

here's something that will help you;

http://www.nbthk-ab.org/Etiquette.htm

http://www.nihontomessageboard.com/nmb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1761
 
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I also recommend having the polish restored. It will make a stunning improvement. The money will seem like a lot, but the increase in value as well as aesthetics will be worth far more.

While at the togishi, have shirasaya made for it. Only store and transport the blade in that except when on full display.

When back from polish, send it to the NBTHK/NTHK for origami.

As suggested, make a book for the sword with the authentication papers and all other papers in plastic pockets. Write up and print out the sword's history known to date, including your family's history with the sword ( closets and all). Using a parchment look paper and a font like Matura, Orient, or Old English really makes the documents look good. This book should be kept with the sword, and digital copies of it and all papers kept on electronic media and/or the cloud. The book should be a suitable match for the sword. Woodburned cedar covers with brass hinges on the front cover would be great. Use brass Chicago screws to bind it together. To make it more authentic, it should open from the left.

Make a kake that will display the unmounted blade ( in shirasaya or bare blade) and have a tray on the base for the koshirae. Clean every four to six months with uchiko and re-apply choji oil.

never mind..read the whole post
 
I also recommend having the polish restored. It will make a stunning improvement. The money will seem like a lot, but the increase in value as well as aesthetics will be worth far more.

While at the togishi, have shirasaya made for it. Only store and transport the blade in that except when on full display.

When back from polish, send it to the NBTHK/NTHK for origami.

As suggested, make a book for the sword with the authentication papers and all other papers in plastic pockets. Write up and print out the sword's history known to date, including your family's history with the sword ( closets and all). Using a parchment look paper and a font like Matura, Orient, or Old English really makes the documents look good. This book should be kept with the sword, and digital copies of it and all papers kept on electronic media and/or the cloud. The book should be a suitable match for the sword. Woodburned cedar covers with brass hinges on the front cover would be great. Use brass Chicago screws to bind it together. To make it more authentic, it should open from the left.

Make a kake that will display the unmounted blade ( in shirasaya or bare blade) and have a tray on the base for the koshirae. Clean every four to six months with uchiko and re-apply choji oil.


I'll add... Reagent grade acetone (Many just use regular and I know a few people who use their wife's nail polish remover) is what you need along with a soft paper towel. You don't want to use abrasives on the blade. We aren't in 1700 feudal Japan.
 
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