My First Traditional Knife

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I've got a lot of knives...quite a lot. Most of them (before Blade Show, all of them) are Kershaws or ZTs. For a decent while now, I moved toward slightly smaller knives. My favorite knife for a while, and still now I think, is the Blur with carbon fiber inserts. Just a wonderful piece, and I use it pretty heavy. While I collected Skylines, I never really carried one, but fell in love with how small it was, after I tried using the Bladeforums edition Skyline. When I talk about knives with my best friend, I always tout the idea of my liking something with a "pocket" vibe. It's why I love something like the ZT0560, but don't ever find myself carrying it or using it much. I just dig the idea of a "pocket knife" as something thrown in there that you can use sometimes.

I've looked around at Case knives, enjoyed the photos I've found of GECs and the like, but never bit the bullet. Last weekend at Blade Show I passed by the Ka-Bar booth and saw a little brown knife on the countertop. The guy told me about the Dog's Head knives that they were doing with Canal Street, and I really liked this one. It was a two bladed trapper, and the copper bolsters and dog head inlay were just gorgeous. When I learned that it was D2 steel, I was intrigued. I guess I never look much into the traditional knife companies, since I assumed they all used something similar to Victorinox's stainless or Case's...um...whatever steel.

It got me to open my eyes a bit more, and while I didn't buy that one, I ordered my first traditional knife when I got home. So, here now I have my Dog's Head Coppersmith small lockback, and it emits a charm that's hard to resist. The feel of the bone handle material and the slim profile just give my such enjoyment. I've been now looking at other Dog's Head pieces and Canal Streets, and will likely fall deeper into this rabbit hole.

A shame I didn't hook into the Bladeforums traditional, but I'll certainly do so next time around. Here are the obligatory pictures:

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Welcome, and thanks for sharing pics of this knife.

It's one that's been intriguing me since it was announced.

I'd like to hear more once it's seen some pocket time, see what you think to it.
 
Congrats on your first traditional, and welcome to the mania! I'm sure you'll be spending a lot less time in the Kershaw forums now. ;) That's a nice looking knife you picked up; I didn't know Canal Street was working w/ Kabar...interesting. You won't find any super-steels here (mostly carbon steel and some stainless) but you will discover a whole new class of "pocket vibe": wood, bone, stag, micarta scales; stockman, whittler, trapper, congress patterns; steel or brass liners; and a lot of color and texture variations!!! So, yeah, it's a pretty deep rabbit hole. If interested, you still have plenty of time to tap into this year's traditional forum knife: pre-orders are being taken now prior to construction (not even half sold yet, I believe). It will be a Congress Jack, which from what I understand, is an unusual/rare configuration. Excuse my rambling. Good luck on your new journey.

-Greg
 
Beautiful knife. Glad you've joined us. Welcome to the traditionals.
 
Looks grand. I've had my eye on that series of Dog head's, the copper bolsters, and emblem looks great. I think it'll look even better overtime, when they darken.
 
Good to hear you've widened your tastes (I like a modern knife myself from time to time :D )

Now investigate other D2 knives, look into Queen Cutlery's selection with carved bone or wood handles, some lock too....
 
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Thank you all for the kind words. Unfortunately, there's a bit of an issue with this one so I've contacted the dealer about a return. The blade smacks the back spacer, or inside of the handle. Every time I close it, it puts a decently sized flat spot on the edge near the tip. Hopefully I'll grab a replacement soon enough. Oh well, have to stay upbeat!

That being said...I ordered a couple of other pieces, namely a Canal Street Cannitler in D2 with amber stag bone, and a Queen Country Cousin with a linen Micarta handle. Should be a fun few days next week. :D
 
Welcome aboard. Another recent convert showing off a nice first purchase!

Certainly you should send something back if it doesn't suit you perfectly. Personal satisfaction and happiness are the only thing that matters, really.

But it might bear mentioning that blade strike on the bottom of the well is not entirely unheard off. The blue-collar working man's tradition of traditionals leans towards knives that are easy to sharpen in the field with a basic stone and with an expectation they'll be sharpened and resharpened over the years. Softer easier to sharpen steels are more common and occasionally, you'll find a design with more blade than well.

A good number of folks consider the blade touching the bottom to be a deal breaker. You are by no means alone or even the minority and I'm in no way correcting you for returning it. Just observing that it is more common among traditionals than among more modern designs.

Heck, on my preferred Opinels, the blades just always rest on the bottom of the well. I've moved to a wider 25 degree cutting edge and find it's more resistant to edge rolling both from the well or hard use.

In any event, welcome to forum. I would love to hear how those around you accept the new carry. I find that traditionals are infinitely more useful as they cause less social disturbance. You really picked a beautiful knife!
 
Common misconception is that you should let the blade snap shut. Always close it carefully. That said having an edge bottom out on steel back springs is no bueno. If for some reason you find yourself stuck with such a knife a toothpick or similar sliver of wood can be trimmed and wedged in there to offer a bit of edge protection.

Lesson in slip joint geometry : there is a protuberance on the tang that may or should be forward of the edge. This is called the "kick" and in many knives is to rest on the spring when closed to protect the edge. It also governs how high above the liners the blade sits closed. Sometimes, with the opposite situation to yours, the kick can be filed down to lower the blade between the scales. Also might be a candidate location for a wooden shim to prevent edge bottoming.
 
Thank you guys for all the great information, it is extremely appreciated. I actually liked the knife so much (apart from the back spring contact thing), that I ordered another one. It's a compulsion still from my modern knife collecting mentality. Like something a lot, get another just in case. :D So, I'll see how that one is. If it's the same then I won't really sweat it. It'll work out I'm sure, and now I'm more informed as to what I'm running into.

Thanks again folks, cheers. :)
 
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Common misconception is that you should let the blade snap shut. Always close it carefully.

Fortunately, none of my slipjoints require such finesse, as I enjoy both the convenience and sound of closing 'em one handed, clicking and a'clacking, SNAP....

(I fully understand the need for care with certain patterns and iterations thereof, but have never run into knifes that require this-- thankfully.)

~ P.
 
Welcome aboard the traditional crazy train! And, what a beautiful knife that is! I have the Canal Street version with Ivory Bone scales and I really like it ~ so much so that I too want to get one just like yours. I really like the dark jigged bone contrasting with the copper bolsters and shield. ;-)
 
Well, a small update...I've been surveying the land of GECs, Canal Streets, and some Queen pieces... I'm in trouble. There isn't much sexier than a GEC Northfield with some nice jigged bone or horn...but those are some Zero Tolerance prices right there. They seem totally worth it though, they all just call to me. You guys were right, this is going to be a thing here.


If anyone is willing to point me in the right direction, where would be a good dealer to default to when looking for companies like GEC and CS?

Thank you all, once again for the warm welcome. The Dog's head is really a nice piece, glad I got it. :D
 
Thanks for sharing it with us ... didn't think I'd be much into traditional knives at first.

I was wrong :)
 
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