My first two sheaths.... Looking for tips.

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These are my first two sheaths. The pictures really don't catch all of the detail, but the second is a big improvement over the first. I have several questions so I can continue to improve my quality. First off, these are for a Mora #1 and a Mora 1/0. I have been reading a lot of chatter online about Mora knives so I had to order a couple to see them for myself. I figured my first few sheaths would be a little rough so the Mora's were the first test subjects. Everything I have learned has been from reading several websites online.

The smaller of the two (Mora 1/0) was the first and I learned from several mistakes on this one. As you can see it was cut left handed. I realized the mistake and decided it really wouldn't matter since it would be a neck knife (and probably more errors). I used Tejas waxed polyester thread on this one. It is my opinion that there is too much wax on this thread. Next time I will run it through my fingers several times to get less wax. I used a stitch groover, but I didn't use it properly. I had more of a scratch instead of a groove. I should have also skived the loop to make it more flush as several of you have recommended to others. I used a diamond shape awl, which is the way to go in my opinion. On the Mora Classic #1 I used a large blunt tip needle and my drill press to push through. Overall, it was much more effort in the stitching process. I will be going back to the awl.

My questions deal with the stitching process. For the small sheath I ran the groover (ended up with a scratch) around the sheath and used a over-stitch wheel to mark the awl holes on one side. I then glued it up and then used to awl to make the holes. The front side looks ok because I used the over-stitch wheel marks as a guide. The back side of the sheath is very uneven. I did punch the holes in the groove mark, but the distance between the holes is not perfectly even. For the second sheath I made the groove around the edge (I used the tool properly and got an actual groove), used the over-stitch wheel on one side, and then used the drill press/needle to punch holes on the font side. Next, I punched the very top hole through both sides and then ran the over-stitch wheel on the backside so I would have a guide on this one. I used a needle to carefully punch the holes in the proper place on the backside and then glued. Neither of the processes mentioned gave the best ending result. When I fold the sheath to glue I would dampen it and get the edges lined up. I had to shape and persuade on both sheaths. Is this from the welt being cut too long? The groove mark on the backside is not directly below the groove on the front side. I had to point the needle at an angle to get the hole to hit both grooves. Any idea on how I can correct this issue?

The next issue is on the edges. I was very please with the first sheath, but not the second. See the pictures. I used the same process for edging. The piece of leather I used on the second did not appear as uniform and smooth as the first sheath. You can see a scar or wrinkle in the top left near the stitching. The leather also feels softer after being finished. I can also see the thickness of the welt is not even. I will pay more attention to that in the future. Anyone have a guess on what may have happened?

Thanks for any advice. They may not be the prettiest, but they will serve their purpose. I hope to keep improving over time.

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Dan - If those are indeed your first two, you've got (as the kids say) "mad skills". To my eye, you have all the basics going on there..... nice shape, good fit, and quite functional and utilitarian. I think you know what can be done better, just from your description. There's not a whole lot that practice cant fix, but....

- sand your edges to 400
- keep your leather cutting blade perpendicular to the surface(nice straight, right-angle cuts)
- a slightly longer belt loop might look a bit more proportional.
 
Thanks for the reply. I tried to use an exacto knife on the first sheath and the edges were not straight. The second I used a large utility knife with much better results. I will pay more attention to the blade angle on the next one. Thanks for that piece of advice. The belt loop fits a 2in belt and was as long as the sheath would allow. I actually had to razor the edge of the welt because one stitch hole went through it. I guess I am going to have to buy another knife just so I can make another sheath!!
 
TXDan, where are you located? If you are anywhere close to me there's a lot of help hanging around in my shop just looking for a place to go. You might also find the DVDs mentioned at the bottom of my post of some interest. You are also welcome to phone me for a one on one critique of the sheaths presented here and the things that you might try next to make the results easier and better.

For right now, do your self a favor and make sure the leather you are using is really the good quality stuff. Import leather does not fit into that category, IN MY OPINION, others may differ. Basically, if you start with crap, it will probably still be crap when you finish.

With regard to your work, it looks pretty good for a first attempt, but it's a long way from what I think you want.

I'm here if you need me.

Paul
 
Dan, the sheaths look great for your first run! Better tools will help with some of your production (e.g. a round knife makes cutting infinitely easier and more precise), but some of the other things come along with practice. I had family and friends give me plenty of opportunities to practice and hone with sheaths or holsters for them. Punching holes with an awl through heavier leather with a thick welt can sometimes be really tough. For the thickest welts for very large fixed blades, I use a 1/16" drill on a drill press. It gives me more uniform control on the angle of the holes and produces a clean line that is consistent on front and back.
 
Thanks for all the replies and input.

NARCAR-I have pretty basic tools right now. I plan to upgrade as I go. I have already upgraded a couple of tools and have enjoyed the quality boost.

Paul-I live in Tyler. I looked and you are about a six hour drive from me. I wish I was closer to take advantage of some of that help that is just looking for a place to go! If your shop is something that is open to the public I could always use a vacation and a road trip. In the meantime, I would love to get your opinion over the phone. You hit the nail on the head with this, "but it's a long way from what I think you want."


Thanks guys, I appreciate the replies.
 
Shop is not "open to the public", but it is open on invitation.....and you got that a couple of posts above. All my contact information is right there at the bottom of each of my posts, so give me a call when the urge strikes you.

Paul
 
If that's your crappy first sheaths then it it would be a tragedy if you didn't hone your skills. One tip: I have actually never found anything better to cut leather with than my mora! They slice leather straight and easily.
 
Thanks nov3mber. I used the Mora several times for trimming different pieces. I am going to start another sheath in about a week to continue the honing. I still have a lot to learn.
 
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