G'Day, The Italian Latama Calendar knife arrived today so I thought I would get my 4 Grandkids <ages 7,5,4, & 2 1/2> to compare with Schrade Cut. Co as I thought they were obviously so dissimilar that I would get their uneducated opinions. They were told to disregard color <as one is gold and the other silver color> and also disregard the blades which are obviously different and also the fact the Latama has a missing bail.I will designate the Cut.Co. as 'MDS' as it has previously been christened by Codger and the Latama as 'L'.
Here are the differences they called out, and I post photos of both knives for info.
1.The handle shapes are obviously different with the MDS rounded corners and 'L' quite squarish.
2.The 'L' case is noticeably shorter in length than MDS.
3.The 'L' case is noticeably broader in width than MDS.
4.The 'L' case is nearly twice as thick as the MDS.
5.The 'L' has no cutaway access to blades and the MDS has two,one on each side.
6.The 'L' calendar is deeper than MDS and extends all the way down to the edge and the MDS stops well short to accomodate cutaways.<actually 3mm deeper>
7.The 'L' calendar is shorter in length than MDS<actually by little over 2mm>
8. The 2 1/2 year old noticed the S for Sunday is bright red on MDS and the 'L' is black and the 4 year old noticed the S for Sunday on the 'L' also has a very distinctive U through the S <obviously to distinguish it from S for Saturday> and this is repeated twice on the knife days of week sliding bar.The MDS has no such U through both its red S for Sundays.<actually all the week letters are different on each knife.>
9.They all noticed the numbers are different on the 'L' from the MDS and the number 1 is different 14 times so I gave them no points for that.<actually the 'L' all have a continental hooked 1 as indeed most of the other numbers are continental as well and formed differently to the MDS.
10.They all found that the MDS has 4 clear dots on the squares of the days that are not utilised while the 'L' has no markings whatsoever.
11.The 4 year old saw that the slide bars for the calendar are different shape and the MDS is more pronounced and protruding higher.
12.The 'L' calendar viewing window extends past the number frame unlike the shorter MDS viewing window.
13. Both ends of the knives are entirely different. <they could see construction wise the blades are set different on each knife as the photos show clearly>
14. They cheated and looked inside both knives with the blades open and saw they are entirely different from each other as well but this was also too obvious to award a point.
They all thought they were both "kinda similar in a different sort of way".
I guess they are right... only 14 obvious differences without looking at the blades or the case materials.
As the punch drunk boxer declared "I wudda had him if it wasn't for his 14 lucky punches!"
My opinion? Kinda mischievous in the extreme for anyone, notwithstanding a self proclaimed self righteous Schrade expert, to even make any sort of comparison between both knives with anomalies far exceeding any similarities....not forgetting the declaration of the pouch supposedly being plastic alligator. Wouldn't a true expert be an expert because he knows his limitations and knows what he doesn't know so he can make authoritive statements without fudging and guessing. A true expert would also acknowledge when he is wrong. <being able to count 2 blades and one handle each just doesn't cut the mustard as an 'Expert' IMHO> Hoo Roo
P.S. There are now over 50 clear photos of the MDS on record now so why dont those that doubt its authenticity give some factual opinion or show more than a few blurred images of their own knives to justify their own opinion. The complete and continued silence says it all really....what a mischievous red herring the Latama saga was!
Here are the differences they called out, and I post photos of both knives for info.
1.The handle shapes are obviously different with the MDS rounded corners and 'L' quite squarish.
2.The 'L' case is noticeably shorter in length than MDS.
3.The 'L' case is noticeably broader in width than MDS.
4.The 'L' case is nearly twice as thick as the MDS.
5.The 'L' has no cutaway access to blades and the MDS has two,one on each side.
6.The 'L' calendar is deeper than MDS and extends all the way down to the edge and the MDS stops well short to accomodate cutaways.<actually 3mm deeper>
7.The 'L' calendar is shorter in length than MDS<actually by little over 2mm>
8. The 2 1/2 year old noticed the S for Sunday is bright red on MDS and the 'L' is black and the 4 year old noticed the S for Sunday on the 'L' also has a very distinctive U through the S <obviously to distinguish it from S for Saturday> and this is repeated twice on the knife days of week sliding bar.The MDS has no such U through both its red S for Sundays.<actually all the week letters are different on each knife.>
9.They all noticed the numbers are different on the 'L' from the MDS and the number 1 is different 14 times so I gave them no points for that.<actually the 'L' all have a continental hooked 1 as indeed most of the other numbers are continental as well and formed differently to the MDS.
10.They all found that the MDS has 4 clear dots on the squares of the days that are not utilised while the 'L' has no markings whatsoever.
11.The 4 year old saw that the slide bars for the calendar are different shape and the MDS is more pronounced and protruding higher.
12.The 'L' calendar viewing window extends past the number frame unlike the shorter MDS viewing window.
13. Both ends of the knives are entirely different. <they could see construction wise the blades are set different on each knife as the photos show clearly>
14. They cheated and looked inside both knives with the blades open and saw they are entirely different from each other as well but this was also too obvious to award a point.
They all thought they were both "kinda similar in a different sort of way".
I guess they are right... only 14 obvious differences without looking at the blades or the case materials.
As the punch drunk boxer declared "I wudda had him if it wasn't for his 14 lucky punches!"
My opinion? Kinda mischievous in the extreme for anyone, notwithstanding a self proclaimed self righteous Schrade expert, to even make any sort of comparison between both knives with anomalies far exceeding any similarities....not forgetting the declaration of the pouch supposedly being plastic alligator. Wouldn't a true expert be an expert because he knows his limitations and knows what he doesn't know so he can make authoritive statements without fudging and guessing. A true expert would also acknowledge when he is wrong. <being able to count 2 blades and one handle each just doesn't cut the mustard as an 'Expert' IMHO> Hoo Roo
P.S. There are now over 50 clear photos of the MDS on record now so why dont those that doubt its authenticity give some factual opinion or show more than a few blurred images of their own knives to justify their own opinion. The complete and continued silence says it all really....what a mischievous red herring the Latama saga was!
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