My Grandpa's Knife

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Hi everyone,

Just made this account. Pretty much for the purpose of asking this but I think I'll hang around a bit.

Anyways, my grandfather passed away just before Christmas and as we were clearing out his house my dad found an old knife of his which they let me have. We have no information on this knife. My aunt and uncle didn't even know it existed until they found it. I can't see any distinguishing marks like logos or anything at all on it, the best guess we have is that he got it when he was working in the Bahamas, or Bermuda. Would've been roughly 1960-75 I think.

My issue is that I want to get it into working condition, while obviously preserving the patina it has built up as much as possible. So here's a few pictures. Sorry for cell phone quality.
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Most of the knife. You can see near the tip of the blade there's some...Stuff. It's white-ish and feels almost like old gum.

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The blade, hopefully some of the scratches can help someone give me some information on it, something like how it's been sharpened, I really don't know.

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Closer look at the stuff I mentioned. It looks brown-ish but there's no rust on the blade.

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Ok, bad picture I know. But if you look at your screen from an angle you can see the stuff in better contrast. I might re-post this one after messing with the colours.

Now, the handle is interesting as well, and I hope it could be a clue to figure out this knife.

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As you can see, the grip is made of pieces of plastic with thin metal discs sandwiched between them after every 2 plastic bits. The colours inside I think are from either the plastic or metal inside oxidizing slightly. Also, the end cap you can see unscrews.

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As you can see here.

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And the handle pieces slide off, although most of them are jammed on there and I can't get them off, this was clearly the design.

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Which lets us see this, which is the tang held in what is, essentially, a headless bolt. The plastic and metal pieces all have holes shaped to fit over that.

This post contains literally everything I know about this knife. If anyone could help out or offer an educated guess about anything from where it came from to how to remove the stuff on the blade without damaging it, to if I can sharpen it properly, I would greatly appreciate it.
 
Welcome, James. At first I thought it was made from 01 steel. Yet, with him working in the Bahamas it would be very rusted. So, I'm thinking A2 steel. The pattern looks close to the Camillus Pilots survival knife. The metal spacers could be aluminum from a wing or scrap metal sheeting. The thicker handle material looks like airplane windshield, plexi-glass. As some of that material when drilled will give off color refracted from the center drill hole. All commonly available materials. The stains on the blade should come off using alcohol, kerosene (Hoppes #9) or WD-40, just rub and wipe. Leaving the patina. You can sharpen it easily on a Norton fine India oil stone. This will give it a fine edge. On carbon steels I'd stay away from diamond stones. He apparently had some machinist skills, because of the threaded pommel and the thumb rest cuts. Plus, there looks to be file marks left on it. He would probably want you to sharpen it and use it. Good find and best of luck with it. DM
 
Welcome to the forums! A great find and to make it more valuable is the fact that it was your Grandfather's knife. I am sure he would be very proud that you have it and have taken an interest in it. It looks to be a very well made knife and should last you a lifetime. Please be cautious about who you get to sharpen it if you don't have the skills to do it your self. There are horror stories about so called "professional" sharpeners out there, so study some knives they have sharpened before letting them work on your knife. Of course if you have those talents, then all the better.
David has given you some excellent advice on the care and cleaning of your knife. Enjoy it and cherish it. Again, welcome!

Blessings, :encouragement:

Omar
 
Welcome, James. At first I thought it was made from 01 steel. Yet, with him working in the Bahamas it would be very rusted. So, I'm thinking A2 steel. The pattern looks close to the Camillus Pilots survival knife. The metal spacers could be aluminum from a wing or scrap metal sheeting. The thicker handle material looks like airplane windshield, plexi-glass. As some of that material when drilled will give off color refracted from the center drill hole. All commonly available materials. The stains on the blade should come off using alcohol, kerosene (Hoppes #9) or WD-40, just rub and wipe. Leaving the patina. You can sharpen it easily on a Norton fine India oil stone. This will give it a fine edge. On carbon steels I'd stay away from diamond stones. He apparently had some machinist skills, because of the threaded pommel and the thumb rest cuts. Plus, there looks to be file marks left on it. He would probably want you to sharpen it and use it. Good find and best of luck with it. DM

Thanks, David. I looked up the knife you mentioned and it definitely bears a resemblance. One thing the pictures didn't show was that the blade actually gets thinner as it goes towards the tip.
So you think in the Bahamas back then Plexi-Glass was commonly available? I wouldn't have thought so but it's the only thing I've gotten so far.

Also, I don't know about his machinist skills, I don't know if he made it or had it given to him. He was a civil engineer, so I don't know how much he'd know about metalworking. As for the sharpening, I bought a Lansky dual-grit oil stone when I bought my KABAR, would that work for this knife as well?

Thank you so much, David.
 
Welcome to the forums! A great find and to make it more valuable is the fact that it was your Grandfather's knife. I am sure he would be very proud that you have it and have taken an interest in it. It looks to be a very well made knife and should last you a lifetime. Please be cautious about who you get to sharpen it if you don't have the skills to do it your self. There are horror stories about so called "professional" sharpeners out there, so study some knives they have sharpened before letting them work on your knife. Of course if you have those talents, then all the better.
David has given you some excellent advice on the care and cleaning of your knife. Enjoy it and cherish it. Again, welcome!

Blessings, :encouragement:

Omar

Thanks, Omar. Yeah, I definitely wouldn't be sharpening this knife with the tool guy who drives around in the truck. I've never sharpened a knife but I have 2 others to try and get it right with before I have to tackle this one. Thanks again for the warm welcome.
 
James, I think we have a military landing field there. I'm not sure the grit type of the Lansky. Nor can I tell how dull it is. So, just work on those other knives before tackling this one and you'll have an idea. Your welcome and good luck. DM
 
I don't have much to add except that is a great find. Clean it up, have a sheath made, and use it!

I almost think it might be a custom local build. The tang being made from threaded round stock with keyed insert (if that's what I'm seeing) is not a method I've seen in any production knife. The overall choice of materials, the look and "feel" have me thinking its hand built, though could easily be a repurposed factory knife. Very cool, looks to have a convex edge already and will clean up nice. If it was good enough for your grandpa, and has plenty of meat on it, should work very well for you.
 
David, I assume by "we" you mean the States? I really don't know if there is or was one there, but I wouldn't be surprised. My grandfather wouldn't have been there as far as I know, he never served. He was an engineer. Which brings me to HeavyHanded's reply.

Thanks for offering some ideas, that it was a local custom build was what I originally thought, because there's no logos or any markings that would indicate a production run by a company. I'm not totally clear on "Tang being made from threaded round stock with keyed insert", but the threaded round part isn't part of the actual blade, but the tang of the blade is inserted into it, from what I can see. I think it's sat in his desk drawer since he left that job.

Thanks again, guys. This forum seems really good.
 
Cool knife!!! Good luck restoring it!!! You could clean it up and force a patina back on to it.
 
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