My New 0561 Framelock Binds to Bottom of Blade

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bchboy1206

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Hi Everyone, I have been playing with my 0561 to get it loosened up and a problem seems to have developed. When I go to close the blade, the framelock will bind on the bottom of the blade and sometimes wedge under the blade to the point were I need to use the fingertips of my other hand to dislodge the framelock from the bottom of the blade. I hope you understand what I am trying to explain.

That seems to be the only problem with this knife. Has anyone else experienced this problem and should it be sent in for warranty work?

Thanks
Jim
 
That's called "Lock stick" It happens from time to time with titanium framelocks. Try putting some sharpie on the blade tang where the lockbar contacts. That should alleviate the stick.
 
I have the exact same issue with my 0560 when I first got it. I tried lead pencil first, then Sharpie on the lock to help it wear in. The issue kept coming back so after 3 months of dealing with it, I finally gave up and sent it in to KAI warranty service. It took them a month to get it back to me, but it is fixed now. They replaced the whole lock side of the frame. They also sharpened my knife for me, even though I did not request for it, just so you'll know.
 
Thanks guys, I just tried the sharpie trick it and it really didn't help at all so I guess I will be sending it back in to be fixed.
I hate to spend $210 on a knife, wait for it then be without it for a month or longer to get it fixed. I guess I should be happy that they will fix it.... :mad:

Jim
 
bchboy1206 said:
Thanks guys, I just tried the sharpie trick it and it really didn't help at all so I guess I will be sending it back in to be fixed.
I hate to spend $210 on a knife, wait for it then be without it for a month or longer to get it fixed. I guess I should be happy that they will fix it.... :mad:

Jim
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could always exchange it where u got it
 
If you are handy try taking the knife apart and coloring the lockbar with sharpie instead of the tang of the blade. I found that it worked better than doing it on the tang with my 0561.
 
Send it to me I'll fix it :D .... Do a layer of Sharpie let dry a few minutes then do it like 3-4 more times then it should be good..
 
the 561 is a breeze to take apart, I also suggest you putting some pencil or sharpie on the lock face itself , rather than the blade tang. I wouldn't give up just yet it's not really a problem rather than a breaking in on certain knives, give it some time try the above suggestions and see if that helps then if nothing helps it then send it in.
 
I didn't find Sharpie to be effective. Before mine broke in I wrote on the blade base with a pencil and the graphite was very effective.
 
the 561 comes carbidized already correct? Or however you spell it, I had to have a 560 when they first came out and as production ramped up and zt made the 561 I heard they were carbidizing<<--again dunno if I'm spelling that right all the lockbars , so the knife may jus need to be played with , most framelocks are gonna have a break in period like that let me ask this the harder you flip open the knife does it stick harder, or no matter how you open it hard or soft does it still equally as hard?
 
Well I have been playing with it a bit and it seems to be smoothing out a bit but the harder I open it the more difficult it is to close it. I used a sharpie, oil and also dry and either way it doesn't seem to help all that much. I think I will just keep messing with it a few more days and if it doesn't get better I will send it back for work. It is kind f frustrating though because I keep getting cut by trying to actuate this thing and not paying attention. It's kind of taking the fun out of collecting these things.
 
Using oil on the lockface will make the problem worse - at this stage, that oil may be causing the problem. Clean any oil off the locking surfaces on the blade and the lockbar and apply some pencil lead or sharpie marker.

I know it doesn't make sense, but dry lubricant like pencil lead (and dried sharpie ink for some reason) will help the sticky lock problem. Wet lubricant like oil will make it worse - it causes it to over travel and stick like crazy. Never use oil on the locking surfaces.

I know it's frustrating, but to put it in perspective, I have owned several $400-$600 customs that had this issue as well. Titanium can gall and stick against the hardened steel of the blade tang, and the problem is not exclusive to ZT knives.
 
jimmer_5 said:
Using oil on the lockface will make the problem worse - at this stage, that oil may be causing the problem. Clean any oil off the locking surfaces on the blade and the lockbar and apply some pencil lead or sharpie marker.

I know it doesn't make sense, but dry lubricant like pencil lead (and dried sharpie ink for some reason) will help the sticky lock problem. Wet lubricant like oil will make it worse - it causes it to over travel and stick like crazy. Never use oil on the locking surfaces.

I know it's frustrating, but to put it in perspective, I have owned several $400-$600 customs that had this issue as well. Titanium can gall and stick against the hardened steel of the blade tang, and the problem is not exclusive to ZT knives.
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hmmm. I did not know that. You learn something new everyday, I guess.
 
jimmer_5 said:
Using oil on the lockface will make the problem worse - at this stage, that oil may be causing the problem. Clean any oil off the locking surfaces on the blade and the lockbar and apply some pencil lead or sharpie marker.

I know it doesn't make sense, but dry lubricant like pencil lead (and dried sharpie ink for some reason) will help the sticky lock problem. Wet lubricant like oil will make it worse - it causes it to over travel and stick like crazy. Never use oil on the locking surfaces.

I know it's frustrating, but to put it in perspective, I have owned several $400-$600 customs that had this issue as well. Titanium can gall and stick against the hardened steel of the blade tang, and the problem is not exclusive to ZT knives.
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Well Jimmer, I felt I had cleaned the lube off well before I applied the marker but apparently I didn't clean it off good enough. I disassembled it and wiped it down with alcohol pads and dried it off thinking I'll show that Jimmer that it still won't work. Well behold, it is now much, much better!!! I own many guns and I am from the school of thought that wetter is better!

Thanks again Jimmer and everyone for the helpful input!!!

BTW Is there any other little tid-bits of information I may want to know about this little beauty???

Jim
 
Always use the flipper..the studs are just there as blade stops..and keep your fingers off the lock when opening :)
 
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