My "new" 110 finger groove

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edbeau

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I recently picked up this 110 two dot off the bay. As I was watching it, I was wondering about the finger grooves. Researching on the forum I came across a statement that finger grooves didn't start until the four dot. On this knife the grooves are a lot deeper than the normal ones. I tried to get pictures to show that the grooves are fairly even and have been there quite a while. The distance between humps is 7/8 of an inch. The grooves do not look hand made. The front part of the bolsters is square and the rear has been beveled. The blade has been reprofiled more than likely because of a broke tip. I would like some help on dating the knife and type of wood on the scales. I tried to use Joe's thread but couldn't get it too close. I have only a few 110's to compare it to. Will start to clean it up and will post clean pictures on the Sunday Picture Show.

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Well, there were SOME Three-Dotters with finger grooves......but they were 112s.

:D

Your knife would have the Macassar slabs, I suppose, and would be one of the later Two-Dotters (meaning late 70s, I'd guess). Somebody did a nice job of making finger grooves.

:)
 
I was thinking it was Macassar Ebony but I really didn't know. I know it is solid wood not laminate and that would be best for you BG. The knife did clean up well and it did take a while on the Ole Lansky to get an edge. It was very rounded off when I started. Do you mean that the 112's got finger grooves before the 110's?
 
well, someone did a really fine job of milling finger grooves, either that or you have a prototype. Prolly the former.
 
Do you mean that the 112's got finger grooves before the 110's?
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All I know is that some 112 Three-Dotters have finger grooves.

That could mean there were a bunch of stashed Three-Dot blades that were used about the same time that 110 Four-Dotters were getting finger grooves.....or.......who knows?

Accurate records seem to be lacking.
 
I was wishfully thinking it could be a prototype because the finger grooves are so well done. Each groove is the same size. I think that leaves out "hand made". The bevel on the rear bolster also is too even for "hand made".
 
Nice looking knife Edbeau, yes those finger groves and bevel are well done. In my mind both could have been executed on a drill press or lathe with a sanding drum...by hand moving the knife against the drum... Just my .02Cents
 
edbeau said:
I was wishfully thinking it could be a prototype because the finger grooves are so well done. Each groove is the same size. I think that leaves out "hand made". The bevel on the rear bolster also is too even for "hand made".
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Maybe there's still hope? Yours is a 2 dot and according to this data, the grooved ones started in the later version three dots.

"Category IV, Stamped BUCK, *112**, U.S.A. 1980 to 1981 ?

Version 1. Left hand stamp, stainless spring holder, Macasar Ebony inlays, three 1/8” brass inlay rivets and stainless rocker rivet.

Version 2. Same as above except nail notch added.

Version 3. Same as above except hand radiused handle edges. Handles have hand radiused edges. No radius in thumb depression area. Finger grooved model introduced."
 
Plumberd said:

Yours is a 2 dot and according to this data, the grooved ones started in the later version three dots.
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That's Three-Dot 112s, NOT 110s.

The FG 110s started with the Four-Dots.

Here's the KEY thing.....it's very important to note the question mark after the 1981 in Joe's notes.

It's not an exact science.

:)
 
edbeau said:
I was wishfully thinking it could be a prototype because the finger grooves are so well done. Each groove is the same size. I think that leaves out "hand made". The bevel on the rear bolster also is too even for "hand made".
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My mistake, I totally brain faded on yours being a 110. I was thrown off by the front bolster shape which is more like a FG 112 than a FG110 and didn't see past that.. :foot:
 
Originally Posted by edbeau:
Do you mean that the 112's got finger grooves before the 110's?
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Dave answered:
Yes they did as Joe's data states this. DM
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Well, maybe (note the question mark in Joe's data).

From the looks of some of the FG112s, though (slabs, radiusing).......one could easily get the impression that they came along a couple years later.......which would mean the finger grooves may well have hit both models at about the same time.

Not an exact science.

:)
 
Sit, Yes these finger grooves could have easily appeared on this model thru that venue as I've done them in that manner as well. DM
 
I don't know what the answer is on the two dot, but the grooves and bolster shape don't match up to the later ones. The "peaks" are in a different position and the bolster shapes are different.

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I rechecked my grooves and they are closer to 1 inch. That is why the pattern goes so far into the bolsters giving it a 112 look.
 
The other difference is the heavy radiusing on your slabs. I've never seen anything like that on a factory 110, although a prototype might be a time for some experimentation.

Here's a Four-Dotter for comparison, just for fun.

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