My RC-4 Based Survival Kit

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Since getting my RC-4 I've been slowly working towards making a mini survival kit based around the knife. I do some hiking, backpacking, and camping and I wanted something that I would always have on me that would have a few necessities "just in case". A big part of my needs was for the finished product not to affect my ability to wear the waist belt of my pack. To this end I got the MOLLE back. Since it is not designed to be a drop sheath by itself I knew I would have to rig something up. I ended up getting an Omega Drop Leg Extender from Blackhawk. It had a quick release buckle I didn't need and which was in the way, so I ended up having to pull out all the stitching holding the buckle in. Let me tell you, these things are sewn TOUGH!! After about an hour and a half (first time doing this) I had removed all the stitching and the buckle, leaving me with a loop with a pretty good size velcro closure. This loop fits perfectly in the ring on top of the MOLLE back. I use it with the velcro-opening side against my waistband so it can't open accidentally, but it can still be removed without taking off my belt.

My next requirement was to be able to carry a small PSK. After the RC-5/6 pouches were announced I knew they would be perfect as long as they fit on the sheath. I held off on this purchase until about a month ago until I saw a picture of one mounted to an RC-4 (and a 3 for good measure). After seeing some pictures that Marion Poff posted showing his kydex/concealex handiwork I decided that I wanted him to make me a firesteel loop which would also mount on the sheath. I emailed him what I wanted and after working everything out (and him putting in all the hard work ;) ) I had a beautifully made firesteel loop sized to fit the LMF Army model. I lock the firesteel into the loop for both safety's sake and because it gives me a way to keep my striker attached to the steel, but the loop is sized perfectly and the lock won't be needed for quite a while. I will have to wear down much more of the steel before it threatens to fall out. You can see how it's held in by the paracord at the bottom of this post.

Here's the loop installed:
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Here's how the firesteel looks after being removed:
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And here it is ready for use after pulling out the striker:
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The pouch and firesteel loop covered almost all of my bases, but I think it's always a good idea to carry some extra cordage. I took about 20ft of paracord and tied it in a coil "knot". I got REALLY lucky and it ended up being sized perfectly the very first time! I then used the split rings and clip that came with my Izula kit and attached the cord to the sheath, with a Nite Ize S-Biner holding the bottom from flopping around. I then had another issue. With the knife being dropped down fairly low on my thigh and having the extra weight I added, it banged around pretty good on my leg. I solved that with a smart little leg tie down using a piece of paracord and a cord lock. It's much better than tying it every time, much faster and easier on and off. Here's how it works, step by step.

Step 1: pull a loop from the front of the sheath and wrap the cord around your leg (there's a knot tied behind the left-most hole, the cord starts here)
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Step 2: slip the cord lock through the loop
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Step 3: pull the loop tight and cinch down the cord lock. Done.
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It's way easier and quicker than this makes it look. Super simple and easy to use.

And here's the whole package.

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I hope you enjoyed my little write-up. With this kit on me I feel pretty confident that I could weather a couple nights in the wild with nothing else. It's not a comprehensive survival kit, but it has a lot of basics and I believe it would take me a very long way. My thanks to Marion for his great work on the loop, as far as I'm concerned it brought the whole thing together and I would buy 100 more from him if I had enough sheaths to put them on. It really looks like it came with the sheath.

I also have some pics of what's inside the tin. If you guys are interested just let me know.
 
Very nice. I was just thinking about building a kit like that for my ESEE 6 when it gets here.

Have you had a chance to carry it in the wild yet? How does it ride?

Thanks for the review!
 
I got 2 kits, 1 from the Rat Pack kit, and 1 pretty much exactly like yours.. beside an homemade leg extender.. nothing store-bought..
i am always interested to see other people tin can survival kit..


Can we see the inside of the tin can ?
 
For me I have never really been a big fan of the drop leg knife sheath but this looks great, and you have all of your bases covered. Let us know how it rides too, because I am very interested how comfortable this will be for an extended period of time, and have you worn it under a pack belt yet? This seems like a great way to solve the "knife on the belt with a pack on" problem.

I also have some pics of what's inside the tin. If you guys are interested just let me know.

Really man? How did you not include whats inside the tin from the beginning? Of course we want to see!
 
Awesome! I've been thinking about something similar since I first got my 4. Nice work!
 
Thanks for all the kind words guys! I have worn this under my pack belt on two short hikes (2-3 miles each) and it's very comfortable. I don't even notice it's there. With the leg tie down it doesn't move at all and the pack belt actually helps take up the weight of the kit since it's pretty much pinned to my waist. It's quick access to the knife too. As you can see in the last pic my hand naturally falls right on the handle.

Here are some pics of the tin contents.

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It currently holds:
  • DMT extra extra fine diamond sharpener
  • photon microlight II
  • 10 each water purifier and neutralizing tabs
  • spool with unknown amount of 15lb fishing line
  • brunton button compass
  • 2 large fish hooks
  • P-38
  • 4 PJCB's wrapped in tin foil
  • Izula magnesium firestarter
  • survival info card from RAT
  • aerowave zipper pull whistle
  • 2 medium size needles in a tiny tube
  • small container with 5 small fish hooks, 5 split shot sinkers, and 5 reflective tabs

It's not completely finished yet, I still want to add an aloksak, speedhook and a signal mirror, then a ranger band or two on the outside. Ranger bands might have to hold either the mirror and aloksak or the sharpener though, it's packed pretty tight right now.
 
Nice kit and great pics. I might recommend the addition of a heavy sewing needle. I just bought some for my kits. Got a pack of 6 for $1.50 or so. They can be great for removing splinters or stingers and field repair of clothing or gear. Since you carry paracord, you could use one of the inner strands as thread. Just something I picked up from Dave Canterbury’s youtube videos.
 
Nice kit and great pics. I might recommend the addition of a heavy sewing needle. I just bought some for my kits. Got a pack of 6 for $1.50 or so. They can be great for removing splinters or stingers and field repair of clothing or gear. Since you carry paracord, you could use one of the inner strands as thread. Just something I picked up from Dave Canterbury’s youtube videos.

You can't see it, but I have two of them stuffed away in there. Under the magnesium firestarter which you also can't see :)
 
I would add a razor blade to the kit,if you catch a fish or small game the razor blade would be a welcome addition to making fine cuts.
I would remove the tablets for water purification just b/c no water bottle is with kit or SS cup. the tablets could be kept with those items(bottle/cup) and you could add a few more items to the tin,like small chunk of fatwood or more fishing kit items or small matches,small bic lighter ,snare wire ETC
 
Maybe you could rough up the back of that stone and epoxy the little dude to the front of your tin. It would buy you a little space and give you a bit of a platform to sharpen on.

Its a great kit!
 
Nice setup, Thanks for sharing your ideas. I want to set up my rc4 the same way for hunting.
 
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