My review of the Buck/Mayo 172

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Well, I finally got the Buck/Mayo today and here's my story:

I've been excited about getting the buck/mayo ever since I heard about it. However, the initial price (close to 300 dollars) and the fact that it's a right handed knife (i'm a lefty) kept me from purchasing one. Later on I read through a few of the threads here and discovered that there was some spotty QC with the buck/mayo. Some problems seemed more like minor inconveniences rather then real problems, while others seem like geniune concerns. Therefore, I dismissed the knife, but I kept thinking about it and recently I checked the threads again and it seems as if the QC was getting better. Therefore, I searched the web for a good price. I found 1 for 185.00 at newgraham and promptly purchased it.

Here's my review of the knife:
The knife is the perfect size for me, there is enough blade to get everyday chores done and it fits neatly into my front pocket. The handle might be a tad small however, the finger choil/notch seems to be set back a little too far and when holding the knife i almost ran out of handle (and i have relatively small hands) The fit and finish is very good, the blade is centered almost perfectly (to be exact it's about 45/55 instead of a perfect 50/50 which is perfectly fine) the action is silky smooth and there is virtually no blade play either vertically or horizontally ( i say virtually because there is always blade play, it just depends on how hard you are really wiggling the blade.) The lockup is solid, i performed the standard spine whack test and the lock held up firm. The knife was also very sharp out of the box and obviously the first thing you do with a new knife is completely shred the box it was shipped in. The knife shredded the box into tiny pieces easily and shaved like it was just sharpened. Another thing I like to do with my new knives is to polish up the blade and then take apart the knife. The 172 has a very simple yet solid design. I easily took the knife apart and put it back together. The construction of the knife is rock solid, the screws are top notch and screwed in perfectly. There are some knives that seem like they don't really want to be taken apart because after you put it back together it just doesn't seem the same anymore or the screws start stripping or the threads are weak. But the 172 begs to be taken apart and put back together, the threads and screws are solid, you can tighten the screws to your hearts content and not worry about anything stripping. And the simple design ensures everything is perfect no matter how many times you take the knife apart.

Rants:
The edges of this knife are sharp to the point that they look like they were not finished. The edges look raw and sharp. I simply took a 400grit sand paper and rounded the edges of the handle slightly and now it's perfect (took about 20-30 minutes) The clip is a bit stiff but thats no big deal, what is a big deal is that the clip seems kind of thing and short; however, it seems pretty strong so I guess size doesn't matter too much in this case. The lock is very stiff, and because the edges of the handle are not rounded it literally hurts to close this knife, i'm hoping the lock with loosen up a little or i'll have to go back with the sandpaper to round the lock part a bit more.

Conclusion:

For those of you guys who have been thinking about buying this knife but hasn't yet... Go out and buy it!! It's a great knife and at under 200 bucks it's a good value. It's an excellent design by Tom and excellent quality and construction by Buck. I know that a lot of people will ask how does it compare to the Sebenza, well honestly in turns of quality the sebenza has the edge here, but in terms of design and cutting ability the 172 is as good as the sebenza if not better. It's quality is easily as good as other high quality knives by Benchmade and Microtech. And in terms of plain good looks the 172 beats out the Sebenza by a long shot!!
 
I've read others complain about the sharp edges on the handle, so I double checked mine. The edges on the handle are not as smooth as they could be, but not sharp to the point of being uncomfortable to hold or handle. Maybe it is another minor QC issue?

The lock is harder to reach one handed than a Sebenza and I almost cut myself [on the blade, not the lock] doing a one hand close. I'll just use both hands in the future.

I think it holds it's own against the Sebenza, a better value for the money difference.

I think the factory edge on the Buck Mayo is much better than the Sebenza.
 
Manji, I pretty much agree with you about the Buck/Mayo. I found the edges of mine to be just a bit more sharp than I would have liked, but it's not so bad that it bothers me. As for unlocking the knife, I think that it's really easy for me to do it one handed. That's me and I'm pretty good at flipping, opening, and closing knives. I concur that the Buck/Mayo is a great deal vis a vis the Sebenza. The only area that the B/M lacks compared to the Sebenza is handle finish IMO and frankly I'll take $120 savings if all I have to deal with is a slightly sharper handle. That said, I think that Buck would be wise to put a better finish on the handle provided it can keep the price within $20 of its current point.
 
I guess some people will get tired of me telling this but I was one of the fortunate ones to get one of the Buck/Mayo's early on. I have compared it on taking an edge and holding it, against a couple of Sebbies that I sharpened myself and the Buck won hands down on taking an edge and holding it. I still believe this can be attributed to Paul Bos heat treat/temper.
 
Yes, when it comes to heat treat........Paul is the man!

He also believes that the proper hardness should be a few points higher than Chris uses for the sebys.........so that tells you something!
 
putting my ten cents in ! I love my Buck-Mayo and I also have Mayo TNT folder the same size but too expensive to use. I opened up the opening for locking gap and put in bronze washers. Ground out the back of the handle flush with the blade spine. Love it even more!! Also converted to tip up carry !:D :footinmou
 
Because the knife is thinner, isn't it a better idea to make it harder than a thicker blade like a sebbie?
It makes sense to me.
Think about it.
Because the Sebbie's blade is thicker, you won't want it super-hard because you'll have to work harder to get an edge.
While the Mayo is thinner, it almost has to be harder to keep it from rolling, so it can still take one hell of an edge.
Any one else. Tom?
P.S. I saw my first one today, I like it. It does have a pretty thin blade and a very light handle which I think was a smart move. It puts it into a separate category from our Sebbies. I might have to buy it now!!! D'OH!!!!!
 
The thickness of the blade has NOTHING to do with how hard it is. Paul heat treats all the S30V that comes thru his shop to the same exacting specifications..........and he believes the profile he uses is the best possible one for getting the maximum performance out of the S30V material. That is the reason for the end result, nothing more.

The medium TNT was designed to be a very lightweight high performance knife that is an easy carry for daily use.
 
Originally posted by tom mayo
The thickness of the blade has NOTHING to do with how hard it is.


I think you might have misunderstood what I meant.
What I meant was: If your blade is thinner, isn't it a better idea (in general) to make it harder?
 
Originally posted by tom mayo
The medium TNT was designed to be a very lightweight high performance knife that is an easy carry for daily use.

Yup....

Mine has never left one of my pockets....
Now if I could only get my hands on a Buck/Mayo one...

Michael
 
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