My thoughts after using modern knives long term.

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Hey guys!

I know this may sound odd when you look at the people here with more knives than they know what to do with, but I enjoy using only one knife. In the past 10 years, I've used two modern knives and have used them to the point where they (at least to my discretion) needed replacing.

The first was a Benchmade Northfork. I loved this knife, the quick flipping with the axis lock, plus the Diamondwood was so cool and felt good in hand. I loved how nonthreatening the knife looked. I edc'ed the knife for three years before it needed to be replaced. Unfortunately, the knife developed vertical play, not a lot but a slight tick that bugged me. After sending it back and forth to Benchmade they eventually replaced it and chided me about batoning (which i never did). I think it was the flipping that eventually wore vertical play into the blade.

The next knife I used was a ZT 0620. I LOVED this knife. It was a little heavy but the Elmax and wave feature was beyond cool. It felt like a tank. I used this knife for 7 years. Around year 4 the pocket clip loosened up to the point where it could fall out, I tried to replace it myself but the screws stripped (felt cheap, Literally stripped like butter when using the appropriate tool). I just shrugged it off and threw some tape on the inside of the clip to help with the pocket hold and went about my day. Recently it started to feel a little difficult to sharpen, it is a rather thick blade and I believe I had taken enough off the edge over the past 7 years that it was a little too thick and that affected the sharpening and the edge holding. I sent her in to get the clip switched out and possibly the blade ground and unfortunately, I received a call that when doing maintenance ZT broke my blade. I have no idea how that happened, perhaps it had a fracture, but ZT gave me a voucher for a new knife (nice of them but they literally only have like 4 models in stock). So now I'm on my new long-term edc a Cold Steel Code 4.

I figured that while many of you have tons of wonderful knives you may not ever truly get to see how a modern knife will hold up long-term to use, I don't abuse but I do use these knives. There seems to be the idea that modern knives will hold up forever, but as someone who works with knives daily I think that could be inaccurate, they wear our like everything else and could imagine would need some maintenance every 5 or so years. You should also expect vertical play eventually.
 
as far as blade play goes, it's one of the reasons many of us use a small fixed blade edc... with a flat grind and higher end steel, you just need to strop it for a great working edge & it'll last a lifetime

for edge holding non-stainless ... imho, try cpm-m4
for stainless steels, magnacut, or m390, or s35vn/s45vn, or low cost 14c28n
 
as far as blade play goes, it's one of the reasons many of us use a small fixed blade edc... with a flat grind and higher end steel, you just need to strop it for a great working edge & it'll last a lifetime

for edge holding non-stainless ... imho, try cpm-m4
for stainless steels, magnacut, or m390, or s35vn/s45vn, or low cost 14c28n
Nah. They all need sharpening eventually. If you use em.

I carry a lot of fixed blades and use a strop and smooth steel for maintenance but they all need sharpening when they go past the point of bringing the edge back. No steel is magical enough not to.
 
There seems to be the idea that modern knives will hold up forever, but as someone who works with knives daily I think that could be inaccurate, they wear our like everything else and could imagine would need some maintenance every 5 or so years. You should also expect vertical play eventually.
Yeah - that’s why my pocket knives are mostly there for convenience cutting and emergencies.

Real knife work calls for a fixed blade imho (unless you don’t care about wearing out/replacing folders of course…).
 
I have more knives than I know what to do with lol but I really enjoy carrying the same one or two knives at a time anywhere from a few days to a few weeks/months to really enjoy and use them. The knives you’re using are great but I wouldn’t consider any of them lifetime knives.

If you care to, I would highly suggest saving up and purchasing a Chris Reeve Knife aka CRK, it’s a lifetime knife and I can guarantee it. It will hold up to your work and even serve your kids some day. They’re a little pricey but I don’t think you’ll ever need another knife again. I would suggest going for the Large Sebenza 21 but the Large Sebenza 31 would work great as well. Sebenza literally translates to work. Find one for a good deal on the exchange or on the Facebook CRK BST.

I don’t think it ever will but if it fails you in any way it’s lifetime warranty will take care of you. And many years down the line when you’ve used up the life of the blade it can be replaced for a brand new one for a fee.
 
If you care to, I would highly suggest saving up and purchasing a Chris Reeve Knife aka CRK, it’s a lifetime knife and I can guarantee it. It will hold up to your work and even serve your kids some day. They’re a little pricey but I don’t think you’ll ever need another knife again. I would suggest going for the Large Sebenza 21 but the Large Sebenza 31 would work great as well. Sebenza literally translates to work. Find one for a good deal on the exchange or on the Facebook CRK BST.

I don’t think it ever will but if it fails you in any way it’s lifetime warranty will take care of you. And many years down the line when you’ve used up the life of the blade it can be replaced for a brand new one for a fee.

I won’t argue against getting a CRK, but your advice isn’t 100% truthful, especially with the last paragraph. There’s a ton of Sebenza’s out there that can’t have blade replacements done, like all of the recently discontinued 21’s (which you suggested the OP get) because they don’t have any more/won’t make more blades. There’s already been posts about people feeling cheated that their lifetime knife equates to them having to buy another $450 Sebenza.
 
I won’t argue against getting a CRK, but your advice isn’t 100% truthful, especially with the last paragraph. There’s a ton of Sebenza’s out there that can’t have blade replacements done, like all of the recently discontinued 21’s (which you suggested the OP get) because they don’t have any more/won’t make more blades. There’s already been posts about people feeling cheated that their lifetime knife equates to them having to buy another $450 Sebenza.
In all honesty there is probably no lifetime knife. Models change, get upgraged and get discontinued, companies go out of business, meteors hit the earth and exterminate the dinosaurs. If you really want a lifetime knife, best bet is to buy an extra blade. I'm thinking of doing that with my Umnumzaan in the future.
 
I am a mechanic and use my work knife a dozen times a day. It is a cheap HK/Benchmade. The steel is too soft so I have to sharpen it a couple of times a week and I broke the tip off so I had to regrind it but otherwise it has been fine for about 10 years. I am surprised that you killed better knives than this.
 
I am a mechanic and use my work knife a dozen times a day. It is a cheap HK/Benchmade. The steel is too soft so I have to sharpen it a couple of times a week and I broke the tip off so I had to regrind it but otherwise it has been fine for about 10 years. I am surprised that you killed better knives than this.
If he's doing a LOT of cardboard, especially some of that heavier industrial stuff, then I could see it. Cardboard is nasty stuff. Add in scraping things and zip ties and you are really grinding down that blade.
 
Using a knife everyday for three years and only then it needs to be replaced - definitely got its worth out of it.
You had another knife for seven years and used it daily for work? That knife earned you way more money than the price you paid for it.

Cardboard: That is just Stonedust looking like paper... Perfect for stropping a knife and messes up a blade in no time.
Zipties: The plastic will put some resistance up, so bending your steel (only ever so slighty) everytime you cut it.
Scraping: The other word for scraping is "unsharpening" - A plethora of different forces meet a very thin cutting edge - amazing your knives held up so long

And the clip - Every time you take the knife out of your pocket or put it back in, the forces put on the clip ant the tiny screws and the handle material, where the screws are held in are significant.
Seven years of that with an average of five times clip and unclip - that's a whooping 24000 times the tiny screws, the handle material and the thin clip were subject to leverage and tensile forces.

If you want to get the most time out of a knife, get something very simple but high quality.
No Clip, No washers, Thick construction. Every extra moving or bending part will reduce the lifetime of the knife.

That's just physics.
 
Using a knife everyday for three years and only then it needs to be replaced - definitely got its worth out of it.
You had another knife for seven years and used it daily for work? That knife earned you way more money than the price you paid for it.

Cardboard: That is just Stonedust looking like paper... Perfect for stropping a knife and messes up a blade in no time.
Zipties: The plastic will put some resistance up, so bending your steel (only ever so slighty) everytime you cut it.
Scraping: The other word for scraping is "unsharpening" - A plethora of different forces meet a very thin cutting edge - amazing your knives held up so long

And the clip - Every time you take the knife out of your pocket or put it back in, the forces put on the clip ant the tiny screws and the handle material, where the screws are held in are significant.
Seven years of that with an average of five times clip and unclip - that's a whooping 24000 times the tiny screws, the handle material and the thin clip were subject to leverage and tensile forces.

If you want to get the most time out of a knife, get something very simple but high quality.
No Clip, No washers, Thick construction. Every extra moving or bending part will reduce the lifetime of the knife.

That's just physics.
I have an Umnumzaan that has served me very well
 
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