My ultimate Spydie

[Dudelepowski]

What do you think of my ultimate folder?

Caly 3
-Aogami Superblue welded to a stainless tang (where the blade pivots)
-Black blade coating
-Compression lock instead of lockback
-Bolts instead of pins
-Orange G10 scales
-Black anodized deep carry wire pocket clip

Reasons?
-I love my para2 but feel self conscious when carrying it everyday. Kind of big and kind of aggressive for outsiders.
-always curious about the Caly sb but feel it has design flaws concerning the usage of sb at the pivot.
-love the compression lock. Fantastic design and good compromise of strength between a lock back and the Blackie Collins bolt.

Pretty please?

 

[spydercofan]

I highly doubt that they would weld the super blue to a stainless steel base since welding will be very expensive. But that would be an awesome blade if it is ever produced. I have the super blue caly3.5 and I love it. This steel gets scary sharp.

 

[Dudelepowski]

I highly doubt that they would weld the super blue to a stainless steel base since welding will be very expensive. But that would be an awesome blade if it is ever produced. I have the super blue caly3.5 and I love it. This steel gets scary sharp.

I have numerous kitchen knives in super blue from Moritaka and they all have stainless tangs welded to carbon blades. It would be more expensive but worth it

I love super blue but it just doesn't make sense as a folder unless the pivot portion of the blade is stainless or the knife can be disassembled. Pitting and blade play are inevitable otherwise.

 

[powernoodle]

You could get a Caly 3.5 Superblue and hit it with black and orange Duracoat, and you would be halfway there. Thats about as close as you are likely to get. But its good to have dreams. :thumbup:

 

[Dudelepowski]

You could get a Caly 3.5 Superblue and hit it with black and orange Duracoat, and you would be halfway there. Thats about as close as you are likely to get. But its good to have dreams. :thumbup:

Haha. I am really banking on the compression lock, stainless base and bolted construction though! I could live without the orange g10 and the coating. You'd see the joint at the stainless base though. But hey... You can't have everything

 

[hank_rearden]

a zdp 189 ladybug with traditional furniture: brass liners, nickel silver bolsters and chestnut jigged bone insert.

 

[bdmicarta]

I have this one and it is pretty hard to beat:

If I could design the ultimate spyderco for me...
I would choose compression lock or liner lock, either is fine with me.
I would choose M390 steel.
I would choose a blade grind like the PM2 but with a little curve on the spine like the Manix or Sage.
I would choose the PM2 handle but with a blade a little bit longer, I think it would still fit easily in the handle.
I would stick with G10 scales but I would make them thicker and sculpt them a little bit, at least round them a little.

The result of this would be still pretty close to the stock PM2.

 

[Dudelepowski]

I have this one and it is pretty hard to beat:

If I could design the ultimate spyderco for me...
I would choose compression lock or liner lock, either is fine with me.
I would choose M390 steel.
I would choose a blade grind like the PM2 but with a little curve on the spine like the Manix or Sage.
I would choose the PM2 handle but with a blade a little bit longer, I think it would still fit easily in the handle.
I would stick with G10 scales but I would make them thicker and sculpt them a little bit, at least round them a little.

The result of this would be still pretty close to the stock PM2.

Love my para2 but it's intimidating to people. Caly 3 is a perfect mix of size and social acceptance.

 

[whetrock]

I know it hasn't achieved the same status as super blue and isn't quite on the same level in terms of edge retention, but SK-5 is readily available in taiwan and china (and most of asia for that matter) and used on a lot of Cold Steel fixed blades from there. I wonder how easy it would be to make an inexpensive but modern folder with this blade steel. I dunno if I'd even want one but still it's inexpensive and paired with a high value knife like the Tenacious it could be popular, however I'm not for certain if SK-5 is cool enough for Spyderco.

 

[bdmicarta]

Love my para2 but it's intimidating to people. Caly 3 is a perfect mix of size and social acceptance.

I don't care too much what other people care about my knives, that is their problem not mine.

But IF I was concerned about size, I would like to try a Sage and to me either the Sage 1 or Sage 2 would be perfect as-is.

 

[Dudelepowski]

I don't care too much what other people care about my knives, that is their problem not mine.

But IF I was concerned about size, I would like to try a Sage and to me either the Sage 1 or Sage 2 would be perfect as-is.

I hear you but I still would prefer to keep my blades a little less alarming.

I already have a Sage 3. Bolt lock is okay but I prefer the compression. I like the blade shape of the Caly3 better and the deploy hole is kinda small on the sage compared to the para2.

Just realized that the Caly 3 carbon fiber is laminated steel. If they can do laminated, they can do a stainless pivot Superblue.

 

[The Mastiff]

I like the super blue exactly as is. This includes the hardness/heat treat they selected as it's a perfect performer. Any harder and it would probably begin to get chippy at the extreme thin edges I run mine at.

I love it. It's one of the greatest folders ever made IMO.

I just squirt tuff glide down into the pivot area. That'll be good enough. It's not like it's going to rust through in my lifetime. Not unless it's at the bottom of the ocean or something. I have knives that are 60 or more years old that have rustier steels that have had less care before they got to me and they look and act like they will last another 60 years. Carbon/alloy steels don't just dissolve away into powder even when not babied and maintained by an aficionado.

Laminated steels typically use softer steels like 420j2 and they sure scratch up easy. I'd rather have hard blade steel and keep it wiped down with silicone cloths and oiled now and then. 420J2 means getting out the sandpaper and going through the procedure to get the scratches out and re polish the steel.

 

[Dudelepowski]

I like the super blue exactly as is. This includes the hardness/heat treat they selected as it's a perfect performer. Any harder and it would probably begin to get chippy at the extreme thin edges I run mine at.

I love it. It's one of the greatest folders ever made IMO.

I just squirt tuff glide down into the pivot area. That'll be good enough. It's not like it's going to rust through in my lifetime. Not unless it's at the bottom of the ocean or something. I have knives that are 60 or more years old that have rustier steels that have had less care before they got to me and they look and act like they will last another 60 years. Carbon/alloy steels don't just dissolve away into powder even when not babied and maintained by an aficionado.

Laminated steels typically use softer steels like 420j2 and they sure scratch up easy. I'd rather have hard blade steel and keep it wiped down with silicone cloths and oiled now and then. 420J2 means getting out the sandpaper and going through the procedure to get the scratches out and re polish the steel.

I didn't say they should change the steel matrix or do laminated. I was just pointing out that if they can spend the money on laminating steel, they could do a stainless pivot area.

I do agree that super blue is the most buttery sharp steel on the market hence why it's on my 'dream' spydie

 

[ibute21]

I didn't say they should change the steel matrix or do laminated. I was just pointing out that if they can spend the money on laminating steel, they could do a stainless pivot area.

I do agree that super blue is the most buttery sharp steel on the market hence why it's on my 'dream' spydie

Part of the reason why they use laminated steel (Caly 3/3.5 with ZDP-189) is because the maker who makes the Calys stamps the blanks out and plain jane ZDP-189 doesn't like being blanked IIRC.

 

[Dudelepowski]

Part of the reason why they use laminated steel (Caly 3/3.5 with ZDP-189) is because the maker who makes the Calys stamps the blanks out and plain jane ZDP-189 doesn't like being blanked IIRC.

Interesting. Actually a stainless clad Superblue would be awesome. You'd get a cool looking lamination line of dark Superblue complimented by bright stainless.

 

[Sal Glesser]

Hi Dude,

Welcome to the Spyderco forum.

It would certainly take a new design to serve your desires. We are working on some Super Blue variations. A Caly 3 is among them. The Compression lock is difficult to make properly and not very makers can make them. Thanx for the input.

sal

 

[Dudelepowski]

Hi Dude,

Welcome to the Spyderco forum.

It would certainly take a new design to serve your desires. We are working on some Super Blue variations. A Caly 3 is among them. The Compression lock is difficult to make properly and not very makers can make them. Thanx for the input.

sal

Hey thanks Sal! That sounds fantastic!

I figured the compression lock posed some manufacturing variables and that's why they aren't as common. I just don't really like lock backs.

Black Coated Superblue and bolted construction would be nice.

Btw, just ordered a techno. My first titanium and my first frame lock. Excited. Thanks again.

 

[kreole]

I didn't say they should change the steel matrix or do laminated. I was just pointing out that if they can spend the money on laminating steel, they could do a stainless pivot area.

I do agree that super blue is the most buttery sharp steel on the market hence why it's on my 'dream' spydie

Where did you hear it is more expensive to use laminated than straight ZDP189?

 

[Dudelepowski]

Where did you hear it is more expensive to use laminated than straight ZDP189?

I didn't. That's my point. Another forum member made a comment stating that a stainless tang would be too expensive. I haven't heard that to be the case either.

 

[Scurvy092]

My ultimate Spydie would be the Southard flipper available with a tip down clip.

Hell, pretty much any of the Spydies in a tip down configuration.