Mystery Chef Knife, anyone recognize it?

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Last year I was poking around a local salvation army and found a couple Wusthof knives, the top one in this picture is the 10", which I immediately fell in love with. After I learned how to take it from butter knife to functional on a stone at least. But at $0.75 I wasn't scared of sharpening it like the expensive Shuns I had been using up to that point.

Since then I have had a special eye out for knives at garage sales and thrift shops, and have since found another half dozen or so Wusthofs, a couple stray Henckels and a full block of them, and a few Messermeisters. After learning how to sharpen them (not perfectly yet, but getting better), and comparing garbage chinese knives (from the knife blocks and quarter knife bins at thrift shops), I've been able to get some notion of how it feels sharpening something like the Wusthof vs something much softer.

The knife in the middle in these pictures is what I am wondering bout. This thing seems to be about as hard as the Henckels and Wusthof (or at least harder then the garbage knives I've practiced sharpening on), and it is very very stout, beefier then the Wusthof even. But I cannot for the life of me find any sort of marking on the knife, or any evidence that there was a marking on there.

As you can see the knife has been abused, someone seems to have bad it on a grinder and I guess must have slipped and skittered across the bolster. So my thought was that it might have been abused in a way that obscured the markings.

In any case I rather like the feel of it, and I think once I have some more time on my hands I will be able to take it up to a pretty functional knife.

I'm wondering if anyone recognizes it? The handle shape seems fairly distinct, I'm hoping that gives a clue to whoever made it.

In any case it's a lot of fun buying these beat to hell knives and getting them back up to functional. Some of these knives..boy I don't know what people are doing to them. But hell, when I can get a knife block full of them for a couple bucks it's no real loss if I can't fix them up. And I have to say I love using knives that I am in no way nervous to ruin while I learn to care for them properly.


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It’s a French Sabatier Spelling? Several companies made/ perhaps some still do in that area of France. I’ve seen Chinese made ones currently. Yours appears older.
 
Oh excellent, thank you. That explains a lot now that I look into Sabatiers.

Browsing through pages of chef knives I haven't been able to spot that exact handle, but knowing that it is a Sabatier based on the blade shape is useful information.

I agree that it does appear to be older, not just from the abuse, it looks to have a similar amount of wear and on it as my Wusthof which seems to pre-date the Classic terminology. I can't sort out when that changed, but it certainly doesn't seem to be a particularly new knife.

Regarding caring for the knife (total neophyte here keep in mind);

Someone really dinked it up with a grinder by the looks of it. Would it be best to just ignore the damage, sharpen it as if it's not there, and just use it? Or if I wanted to pretty it up a bit would that be something I might be able to do by polishing it with a stone at a flatter angle? Or maybe something else that hasn't occurred to me? (keeping in mind I am pretty limited in my current equipment, but more then interested in poking around for more tools to rehabilitate garage sale knives).
 
The middle is a chinese made cheapie. Likely somebody tried to reduce the bolster and messed up. Very common on bolstered knives that at some point in time the bolster needs to be drawn down to fix overall geometry
 
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