n/a

[Hashishiin]

n/a, luckily!

 

[killgar]

I read that bill from start to finish, it does not change any of California's knife laws or impose any new restrictions on the carrying of knives. The bill, and the changes to California law described in that bill, are specific to the carrying of firearms. The bill repeatedly and specifically uses the term "firearm", it does not use the term "weapon". The title of the bill is "SB-918 Firearms".

Someone who sat down to read the whole thing summed it up as so:

"In response California is passing a law that removes the 'Good Cause' requirement for a concealed carry permit....while simultaneously in the same law making it a crime to carry a weapon open or concealed with or without a permit. Any place or establishment that serves alchohol, places of worship, schools, any government or public building, any place that government or public employees have to regularly visit to do their jobs, airports, court houses.... and the important part, in the parking lots, adjacent parking lots, and adjacent sidewalks. Now you can't even be near a restricted place. How many places are there that aren't next to a public or government building, school, airport, or place that sells alchohol? Grocery stores, restaurants? Not only can't you be in the parking lot, you can't be in the parking lot next door. The icing on this cake is that they have added fixed blade knives if any kind open or concealed (concealed was already prohibited), and now folding knives with a length over 4 inches. When this goes into effect carrying a Police 4 or Native Chief in the wrong parking lot or sidewalk can now put you in danger of jail time in California."

I don't know who's interpretation this^ is, but I see nothing in the bill to support their interpretation. There is no reference in the bill to possessing knives in or near bars, places of worship, "any place that government or public employees have to regularly visit to do their jobs", grocery stores, restaurants, or the parking lots of any of those places, or any sidewalks.

The only references to knives in that bill are in regards to the possession of knives in "state or local public buildings" (CA penal code 171b), and secure airport property (CA penal code 171.5). And the knife portions of those laws are not changed by that bill. The only reason knives are mentioned at all in that bill is because they included the entire statutes when referring to the carrying of firearms in those places.

Your thread title could not be more wrong.

 

[Hickory n steel]

I sure hope it doesn't pertain to knives because if this unconstitutional law does and manages to actually take effect, I will have to be careful about who is around me while I never follow it.

Most of the belt knives I carry are modestly sized as are all the small traditional pocket knives I carry, but I have a belt knife or two I love that might be a bit over that supposed limit.

California will not get away with this law, because that recent supreme court decision specifically said that this very thing can't be done, Gavin nuisance think's he's being clever and skirting around things but it won't fly.
His intentions are to effectively restrict legal carry locations out of existence without officially doing so since he's not allowed to, his loophole is paper thin and won't fly.

 

[Hashishiin]

I read that bill from start to finish, it does not change any of California's knife laws or impose any new restrictions on the carrying of knives. The bill, and the changes to California law described in that bill, are specific to the carrying of firearms. The bill repeatedly and specifically uses the term "firearm", it does not use the term "weapon". The title of the bill is "SB-918 Firearms".




I don't know who's interpretation this^ is, but I see nothing in the bill to support their interpretation. There is no reference in the bill to possessing knives in or near bars, places of worship, "any place that government or public employees have to regularly visit to do their jobs", grocery stores, restaurants, or the parking lots of any of those places, or any sidewalks.

The only references to knives in that bill are in regards to the possession of knives in "state or local public buildings" (CA penal code 171b), and secure airport property (CA penal code 171.5). And the knife portions of those laws are not changed by that bill. The only reason knives are mentioned at all in that bill is because they included the entire statutes when referring to the carrying of firearms in those places.

Your thread title could not be more wrong.

Huh, you should see the thread title of where it was where I read it (Spyderco forums) "CALIFORNIA RESTRICTS ALL KNIVES OVER 4"

This is a perfect example of not doing one's fact checking. I apologize for seeming to have... really misinterpreted this, I thought that 1. everything said, was, in some roundabout way, being said about all "weapons", because 2. Someone having this link, someone also not properly reading it, said that this was the skinny of that hundred-whatever pages of absolute poison to the soul, which is what this reading is, and simply because YOU (You Killgar) are responsible enough to read through that, I shouldn't assume that other people in other places are, and should be reading it fully myself.

So, yeah, instead of reading it, thought I could use a little "search the article" feature, and that cursory look made me think that the original assessment was correct. Taking down now.