NAH156 stag NAHC Little Finger 1996

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Here's one of two Schrade knives included in the "Hunting Heritage Collection" of knives made for the North American Hunting Club members.

I found some great data on it here: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=549987&highlight=nahc

To quote Codger: "NAH156 - 156, stag handles, NS bolsters, NS NAHC shield, Heritage tang stamp, 1996 - 3 - 5,000 pcs."

I tend to see the other PH-1 Schrade offering from this set more often than the 156 and thought I'd share. Stag is awesome on this one!

My knife is unlike any others I have seen in that they are usually stamped "Heritage" over "Schrade+" over "USA" but mine is stamped "NY USA" on the last line. Why? I have no idea...

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Love those little Sharp Finger's. Those little Gems seem to be the perfect size & shape for working with, or as a small EDC.
I didn't know they made a North American Hunt Club version. SWEET! :cool:
I have a couple NAHC PH1's that I'll post in the Schrade forum later when I find the time. ;)
-Bruce
 
Here are some pics of the COA that I thought were worth adding to this thread (note that Schrade claimed to be "The largest knifemaker in the world" at this time):

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Nice knife! You are scoring big time lately! Congrats!

Thanks Michael! Actually I got this one last year but mine didn't come with the COA so when I saw some good pics of it on eBay I kinda scooped them to add here.

One thing I have noticed in watching another years worth of auctions is that the NAH156 examples that were originally sold as part of the full 8 knife set seem to be stamped with "Heritage" over "Schrade+" over "USA" but the ones sold NIB by themselves are stamped "NY USA". I can't really confirm this 100% but that seems to be what I am witnessing. Cheers!
 
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Doh! I see now that you posted the "get" back in January. I must have been laid up when you posted that one. Remember the other knives in the set and add them as you find them. I love those gold filled etches and stag. NAHC did order some fancy knives from Schrade!
 
Doh! I see now that you posted the "get" back in January. I must have been laid up when you posted that one. Remember the other knives in the set and add them as you find them. I love those gold filled etches and stag. NAHC did order some fancy knives from Schrade!

I am after the whole set eventually. The curly maple PH1 is a great knife too and is readily available these days for very reasonable prices.

It's actually a set of 9 knives not 8. The Canadian version of the 8 knife set has one knife made by Grohmann in Pictou, Nova Scotia and the same knife is made by Marbles in the American version of the set. There's a little gem for ya lol
 
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I'm bumping this thread to see if I can get some feedback on something I've noticed.

As I mentioned earlier in this thread most examples I see of this (or a very similar SFO) knife are stamped without the "NY" that is on mine. Now that more time has passed and I've seen a lot more of these come and go online I've noticed that many are "bone stag" and not true sambar stag. Example of these knives:bone stag 156.jpg

My theory is that perhaps the true NAH156 in sambar stag were all stamped with the "NY" and the ones without are all actually a different, but very similar, bone stag SFO. I'm wondering if this is another way to quickly ID the sambar examples.

Has anyone noticed anything regarding the stamping and handle material correlation on these knives that may prove or disprove my theory? Does anyone but me care? lol

Thanks for any comments you may have guys.
 
My theory is that perhaps the true NAH156 in sambar stag were all stamped with the "NY" and the ones without are all actually a different, but very similar, bone stag SFO. I'm wondering if this is another way to quickly ID the sambar examples.

Nope! I was wrong on this one. Sadly (for me anyway) the knife pictured above was re-homed to another but things have a way of working out. I really wanted to use the above knife but the drop in value kept scaring me off.

I've been able to replace it with a used one and it's more fun than the safe-queen. This one will continue to be used. I changed the blade profile a bit so that the cutting edge goes all the way it can towards the handle and put a shaving-sharp edge on it.

The sheath was original but the thread had been cut and it was falling apart. When I looked at the welt I could see that the original line of stitching had missed it completely where the blade was sitting and the blade had cut all the threads. The threads had all fallen out where they attached the belt-loop too. The sheath was in tatters.

I took out all the thread and removed the rivet and went about fixing it. This was my first "saddle-stitch" effort but it's not brain surgery and I encourage anyone out there to give it a try and fix their own sheaths etc. I used some thick nylon waxed thread. When I removed the rivet I was a little sloppy and I didn't have a replacement anyway so I decided to modify the sheath into a "pocketable" blade-protector-only style so that I could have this belt-less option.

I was only concerned with function so I just held it together while I drilled a better line of holes free-hand. I made an extra circle at the top where the stress is the greatest and to tighten up the grip of the sheath on the knife. When I was done I "hot formed" or "wet formed" it. I used water that was a little hotter than I could keep my hand in and submerged it until it was shapeless and supple (60 seconds?).

I then drained out the water and sheathed the knife. I used only my fingers to squeeze it into shape. When I was happy I removed and dried the knife and left the sheath to dry for a couple of days.

It worked great! Retention is awesome. I can hold the sheath upside down and shake for all I am worth and that knife goes nowhere. My next effort wasn't on a Schrade but I'll include a couple pics as more encouragement for folks to do this stuff themselves and to show how it looks if you try a little harder to be neat.

The original machine-stitching on the black sheath wasn't tight enough and the blade had nicked the threads out. A machine can't do true saddle-stitch and hand-stitching is much stronger. I removed all the original thread and re-stitched. It's tight as a drum now and should last forever. I'm gonna bees-wax hot form this one for my stag Grohmann #4 Survival knife.

Try saddle-stitching and wet forming sheaths if you have to or just because you want to. There is nothing to fear! While you are at it, score yourself a Little Finger if you haven't already. Great pattern!

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Russell #4 sheath:

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Dave, Great job and the info is too. Ive redone a couple sheaths and its amazing how just some saddle soap improves the leather softness.
I'll give the soaking a try too.
Thanks
 
Dave, Great job and the info is too. Ive redone a couple sheaths and its amazing how just some saddle soap improves the leather softness.
I'll give the soaking a try too.
Thanks

Thanks Larry. I will add that when you wet form leather it gets harder and less supple. The hotter the water (or wax or mixture of a bunch of things) is the harder and less supple the leather gets. The longer the leather is exposed to the heat the harder it gets. Supposedly boiling water basically turns leather into wood that can even shatter if dropped.

The "slightly hotter than I could stand" temp made the sheath quite rigid but still leather-like. I could have gotten even crisper/tighter fitting had I rubbed the leather with the handle of a wooden spoon etc but I wasn't that particular on this ugly duckling. For the Russell Belt Knife I'm going to take more care to make very crisp corners where I'm forming it around the handle so I will be pushing and prodding the leather into shape with more than my fingers.

Here's a link to much info on Cuir Bouilli (Hardened Leather) if you want to dig deeper. http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc-carlson/leather/hl.html
 
I knew boiled leather was used as a form of armour back in the days of steel and horses. Hadnt thought about doing that the a sheath.
 
I knew boiled leather was used as a form of armour back in the days of steel and horses. Hadnt thought about doing that the a sheath.

I read some threads here and there and watched some videos on You Tube where folks wanted to harden up the leather for retention purposes and it was often referred to as becoming "kydex-like" as the temperatures used got higher. The sheath I used to test this theory was in terrible shape anyway so I kept the faith in my researching abilities and took the plunge. It did indeed stiffen the leather and it really wants to keep the shape I molded it into. Basically it worked great! It's like the knife "clips in" to the sheath now. It's not "kydex-like" but it's very stiff for a leather sheath.
 
I read some threads here and there and watched some videos on You Tube where folks wanted to harden up the leather for retention purposes and it was often referred to as becoming "kydex-like" as the temperatures used got higher. The sheath I used to test this theory was in terrible shape anyway so I kept the faith in my researching abilities and took the plunge. It did indeed stiffen the leather and it really wants to keep the shape I molded it into. Basically it worked great! It's like the knife "clips in" to the sheath now. It's not "kydex-like" but it's very stiff for a leather sheath.
Good information Dave. And I agree with your advice about procuring a "Little Finger" pattern. They really are a neat little knife. :)
-Bruce
 
I know nothing about this knife in my collection.

Well, it's not a Little Finger. It's not sambar stag and it's not a NAHC SFO. Question would better have been asked in it's own thread but I'll field it anyway.

First off the pattern is the 162UH Wolverine (originally made from 1982-1985). Handles are "bone stag" or stagged bone if you prefer. Shield (if I'm seeing it right) is 24k gold plated "Ty Murray World Championship Cowboy".

The 162UH pattern with the "LTD" stamping was brought back for at least two SFOs for Ducks Unlimited. One featured Uncle Henry style delrin handles and a standard blade etch: http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/ducks-unlimited-knife-with-sheath-made-by

I believe your knife is a "End-of-Days" knife completed for sale in 2004 from left over parts. I'm thinking that it started out as a SDU5LTD which was the fifth and final issue in Schrade's knife-in-a-decoy series. It had a very nice gold blade etch and DU shield and was a limited edition of 500. It's listed in the 2004 price list: http://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/pricelist/images/2004-PRICELIST.pdf

Here's a Worthopedia link to a SDU5LTD example: http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/schrade-ducks-unlimited-hunting-knife-w-display-mint

I have seen many unfinished examples sold without the blade etch but with the DU shield such as this one: http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/schrade-usa-bone-stag-ducks-unltd-142883743

The Ty Murray SFOs were done around 1996 and I don't think there was ever a 162UH involved. I have seen delrin Ty Murray 285UH, 897UH and 3OT SFOs but no bone stag Wolverine. I used to have the 3OTYM black delrin 3OT:


The SDU5LTD was a 2004 issue so seeing the Ty Murray shield on that handle makes one think End-of-Days.

Therefore, best guess is no-etch SDU5LTD blade and handle with Ty Murray shield End-of-Days knife. That might be an incorrect Sharpfinger sheath with it as well. Hard to tell...
 
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