Naniwa Diamond

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Anyone compared these Naniwa Diamond stones to Chosera’s or Shapton glass? Quite a premium in price.

I really like My Shapton Glass, Shapton Pro, Naniwa Chosera , Suehiro Cerax/Rika. just curious… I might pick up a Naniwa Diamond 1k or 3k sometime down the road. I’m really happy with what I got just always looking around… Wondered what y’all thought.
 
If your Choseras and SGs are working well for you, you don't need Naniwa Diamond. It won't offer you anything you don't already have, except being different. If, on the other hand, you have steels like S110V that don't seem to be responding well to those stones, then they are a good option. A premium option, yes. The Venev double-sided stones will do the job for less money. But I have both, and the Naniwa are somewhat faster, and feel a bit nicer. Possibly they have more abrasive, I don't know. Plus they come with a conditioning stone, which is needed. These stones glaze, and I include the Venevs in that.

I also use the Venevs or Naniwas for truly crappy stainless steel. I don't think it's just to avoid getting hard-to-remove black marks on my SGs. I think it's because they are a bit more suited for the job.
 
Thx for the reply. Currently everything I own is under 62hrc.

Gave away my S110v to a buddy.

Mostly just sharpen high end Japanese shears, couple of my Moritaka Kitchen knifes (around 62hrc) or carbon Kitchen knives and Some pocket knifes (Cpm s30v and 20CV or softer).

I need to check out the Venev too.
 
Uncleboots- do you have other waterstones to compare with? If so, any observations on feedback or feel.
 
Pretty much any waterstone will beat a resin-bonded diamond stone for feedback, as far as I can tell. My best feedback synthetic stones are the Gesshin soakers, by far. But it's not that important to me. I need some feedback, yes. People complain about the feedback of the SG stones, but I think it's great; it's just subtle. You have to learn to listen for it. For feel, well, I like hard stones, so the SGs are about perfect for me. In a way, they are like the harder JNats. They seem hard and unforgiving at first, but when they get into the zone, they tell you, big time. OK, for JNats, you need slurry to make that happen, but it's still kind of similar.

As for other waterstones, let's see. I had a full set of Nanohones, but sold it recently. Not because they were not good -- they were. I just didn't have a place for them any more, I never reached for them. I am currently playing with some superdense stones, Naniwa Hibiki and Suehiro Gokumyo 2K, but I would not say I've reached a final verdict. I got a Shapton Pro 1500, and it's very good, but I expect to give it to a nephew who is thinking of becoming a chef. I was curious about it, but with an SG 1000 and 2000 around, I just don't need it.

For carbon steel, if you are using 4K or above grits, I'd definitely recommend checking out the SG HC series. They're just wonderful on carbon steel, and creamier-feeling than the HR series.
 
The Naniwa diamonds are overpriced to get in the US. Check out the CGSW Resin bonded diamond benchstones. They're the same as the Edge Pro diamond matrix but in bench stone format. I've also used the Nanohone resin bonded diamond. They make an amazing edge but it's a very strange sharpening experience. I found the best way to use them is after generous dressing it with a nagura. Also, never use a diamond plate on any diamond stone despite what the product page recommends.
 
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