Nasty features

Sam Salvati

Sam Salvati

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Does anyone ever worry about putting nasty features on things? guthooks, backspikes on tomahawks and such? Of course it's the anti knife nazis that cry all knives are bad and all that shiz, and we all know that knives are art and useful tools, but what about creating things that don't have a regular purpose? I got this idea for a big spike thing like the spike bayonets, it has no real utility purpose other then sticking in the other guy and maybe picking your nose :D.
 
Sam Salvati said:
Does anyone ever worry about putting nasty features on things? guthooks, backspikes on tomahawks and such? Of course it's the anti knife nazis that cry all knives are bad and all that shiz, and we all know that knives are art and useful tools, but what about creating things that don't have a regular purpose? I got this idea for a big spike thing like the spike bayonets, it has no real utility purpose other then sticking in the other guy and maybe picking your nose :D.
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You know i dont like serrations but thats a personal preference. As for as craftmanship ill try anything just to say I can make it. As for the tool statement whenever someone says why do you carry a weapon on you I always reply "Its a tool otherwise you kitchen is a armory!"
 
I love the spike design like the cruciform or cross section daggers and whatnot, sks bayonets and thrust daggers in the + shape

Like you said it has no good purpose but its still really cool
 
You're not selling to the anti knife Nazis are you ?

I'm surprised at the zombie chopper stuff that sells, I say give it a go.

Heck if Charlie Mike can sell his stuff, anything goes.


Edited to say that "Fantasy" is probably what I should have used instead of "Zombie chopper"
 
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You're gonna hate my Zombie Hunter Choppers I plan to make , there gonna be cool with glow in the dark handles . That is if I ever get my used grinder working again , if I replace the frame it will be a brand new one with all the stuff I've fixed or upgraded bought a new motor and VFD today after I accidentally blew metal shavings into the VFD while doing some wiring and fried it , Allen Bradley don't service my model anymore. I got a new 2 hp 3 phase motor and VFD for $700 direct from manufacturer . Better then $700 for just a VFD. I'm building a totally enclosed box for it with exhaust fan. The Choppers will be made with with excellent penetration for first strike hippocampus severing strikes . If your into the whole genre of Zombie movies and books which are popular lately you'd get it . I like the classic George A Romero work from the 70's . The new movie fast zombies blow, zombies are walking dead , slow and need a good shot / stab to the brain. With viruses and whatnot might as well have a functional chopper for close range protection until you can get your hands on a firearm.


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You're not selling to the anti knife Nazis are you ?

I'm surprised at the zombie chopper stuff that sells, I say give it a go.

Heck if Charlie Mike can sell his stuff, anything goes.
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I put a sharp pointed pommel on my trench knife, exclusively because original trench knives often had a helmet penetrator. Mine was more for show than anything, but I guarantee it would do the job if pressed into service.

Sometimes you just have to acknowledge the testosterone influence and make your knife badass.

- Greg
 
In an effort to keep the Shop Talk area on track as a good place for knife info. lets all try to avoid Zombie talk, Rubber Duckies, Monkeys, and similar non-knife related chit-chat and wasted bandwidth.
Thanks - Moderator
 
I never got into /understood the Zombie stuff.This isnt politically correct,but mankillers sell.Always have.Collectors go for them.They just look cool and are a good medium to show a makers talent.I do hate guthooks tho!
 
Sam Salvati said:
Does anyone ever worry about putting nasty features on things? guthooks, backspikes on tomahawks and such? Of course it's the anti knife nazis that cry all knives are bad and all that shiz, and we all know that knives are art and useful tools, but what about creating things that don't have a regular purpose? I got this idea for a big spike thing like the spike bayonets, it has no real utility purpose other then sticking in the other guy and maybe picking your nose :D.
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I enjoy making knives and assorted tools with "nasty features". If nothing else, it's fun and you can be quite creative.

Sheeple and knife nazis are going to be offended regardless of the kind of tool you produce. I'm sure they would consider a 1" neck knife a WMD.

I make knives because I enjoy the process. If I feel that making a "Death Dealer 2000" simply for fun (or even as an order), I'll make it regardless of what anyone else thinks.
 
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I never mentioned zombies.
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I did.

When I say Zombie, I mean the whole "Fantasy" realm.

Look at all the stuff Frost cutlery sells in the "Fantasy" and movie categories.

If it wouldn't sell, they wouldn't have kept at it so long.

In the Blade Magazine they publish sales stats & such for advertiser info along with their annual survey.
Their greatest newsstand sales are for the knife related movie cover photos.
I would guess that almost all of those are some sort of mostly sword fantasy related items.

Rambo, Star Trek, Lord of the Rings, the "Blade" movies, Comic conventions and such.
I seriously underestimate that appeal.
Especially when you consider the buying and collecting behavior of the people with those interests.

What happens when a fellow that has a ROOM full of little action figure dolls starts buying knives ?
You may be able to sell him a ROOM full of knives.


I have to remind myself everyday that although I am always looking on the practical side of why and how something may be useful, not everyone thinks that way.

Cool factor counts in sales whether I think it's foolish or not.
 
You know I never thought of it but I guess there really is a huge market for fantasy knives. Can you imagine making a knife used by wharf or whatever his name was on star trek.
 
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You know I never thought of it but I guess there really is a huge market for fantasy knives. Can you imagine making a knife used by wharf or whatever his name was on star trek.
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I think that it will be few and far between such occurances. Gil Hibben really got hollywood with his Rambo knives, and Hollywood doesn't like missing outon profits. So I bet they took that as lessoned learned, and now "manufacturers" copy whatever the holloywood prop guys come up with for the movies use, I don't think they want to repeat seeing someone else make millions off of their product placement.
 
My opinion is that knives like the daggers with spiked knuckles would sell.
But, not something someone should carry in public or take to work.
 
Haters gonna hate.
You're an artist and artists shouldn't let themselves be censored by anyone, including themselves. Make what you want to make and what your customers want you to make. At any rate, custom makers, especially top notch ones such as yourself, are a drop in the bucket of scary looking knives compared to the high volume of foreign-made ones that are imported and sold.
I understand the importance of good PR, of course, but if you are changing what you make based on what the haters want you to make then you've already lost.

- Chris
 
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My opinion is that knives like the daggers with spiked knuckles would sell.
But, not something someone should carry in public or take to work.
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I had a chance to buy a WW2 trench spike, but in Canada the brass knuckles rules prohibit that and D guards.

Be careful with where you and your customers are, your laws are twitchy and vary for every state.
 
I hate guthooks won't do 'em, sawbacks useless,harshly angled grinds are clunky, serrations have there place. But the main nasty features I hate are stupidly aggressive looking designs,"blood grooves", skull crushers, sharp or pointy guards, and multi pointed, multigrind, finger grooved things with speed holes that look "mean" but are put together with no thought of actual function. IMO the best and most effective bladed weapons throughout history and today tend to be rather plain but subtle designs, that are intuitive to hold and wield with blades designed to cut, not look cool.
 
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I had a chance to buy a WW2 trench spike, but in Canada the brass knuckles rules prohibit that and D guards.

Be careful with where you and your customers are, your laws are twitchy and vary for every state.
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That's along the lines of what I am making minus the knucks, Count. Not really anything utilitarian, just for killin. I am not talking about guilt from the judgement of the sheeple/anti-knife-nazi's, more along the lines of comfort with yourself feeling guilt that such a nasty thing is out in the world. Maybe I am just feeling squeemish lately, need to watch more rambo.
 
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