Native IV

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I’ve had this knife since 7/29/09. I’ve EDC’ed it every day since but offer this review only as my initial impressions.

The knife is beautiful. Many have called it a dressy knife and see why they think so. However, I don’t think of it as a “dress up” knife. IMO one should never have a knife clipped to a suit pocket. When wearing a suit, whatever knife I have must be totally within my pocket, at which point it doesn’t matter if it is CF or FRN since no one sees it. However, I do have to battle with myself so as not to regard the knife incapable of hard and dirty work. Let’s face it, CF scales aren’t necessary for the utility of the knife – they are really just for show. But I like them. The knife has a nice heft to it. It isn’t too heavy but isn’t too light either. Although I love FRN for its light weight and strength, I always think “plastic knife” when I use one (love the Caly Jr.). This knife kind of straddles the fence between too light and too heavy. A good compromise in my book.

The blade design is useful and really allows you to choke up on the knife. The choil is great and the jimping ensures an even better grip. Nutnfancy criticized the knife for not having jimping on the spine. I can see where that would be useful but I don’t think it is necessary and prefer the knife without. VG10 is a fantastic steel – you’ll hear no complaints from me. The knife arrived with a great edge. I could improve it but it is as good you can get from a factory, in my experience. The blade is almost perfectly centered, if that is important to you.

The CF is smooth. Some say too smooth. Not me. I love the texture. As noted above, the knife’s design allows for a very good grip so a rough pattern is not necessary. All edges on the CF are smoothed (melted) and very pleasant. The Spyderhole is sharp, as it should be IMO. That shows precision machining. File yours down if you don’t like it. The clip carries well, especially with the knife being as thin as it is. That was a big selling point to me. I like thin knives that ride unnoticed in the pocket. It appears the screws are anchored in the CF only, not in the liners. I have not had a problem with this but worry about long term usage. I doubt it will be an issue; I don’t have anything else with screws anchored in CF to serve as a benchmark. The knife is tapped for 4 way carry and has a lanyard hole.

Gripes: I have two. First, the action is not smooth. I think either the lock bar or the end of the blade needed a little more polishing. With the lock depressed, the action is butter smooth. None of my other Spydies have this problem and none cost this much. Second, one of the liners has the minor crack which was previously discussed on the forum. I believe Sal identified an issue in the manufacturing process. It probably isn’t significant and surely won’t affect performance, but at this price, quite honestly, it shouldn’t be there.

Nutnfancy said this was a “low value” knife. I won’t go that far, but I will say it isn’t a high value knife such as the Sage or some other offerings from Spyderco (esp. FRN models and Tenacious) and other makers. I believe Spyderco operates on fixed margins so I don’t think they have needlessly inflated the price of the knife, but nevertheless at this price I would like the F&F to be a little better. It is a great knife at a fair price, but not a great value. The FRN model will be a better value, I’m sure.

Bottom line: Despite the negatives mentioned above, this has taken second place in my favorite knives list behind my Buck Mayo TNT. I like the knife A LOT and look forward to using it for many years to come.
 
From the Spyderco forums:

We're planning G-10 versions of the USA made NAtive4. The model is now in engineering. We're doing alot of research on possible ways to refine the lock interface.

Once nailed down, there will be US versions in many variations.

sal


That should address the lock action issue you are having. It will also be nice to have a lower cost option available.
 
notos&w,
Thank you. It is very nice review. I carry and use mine since January, lock is very smooth. Native4 is very fine made knife. Mine also has this toolmark on the liner, but I can see it only with eye loupe, so I do not care about this much, I just enjoying it.
Thank you once more. Enjoy your Native4.
 
From the Spyderco forums:

We're planning G-10 versions of the USA made NAtive4. The model is now in engineering. We're doing alot of research on possible ways to refine the lock interface.

Once nailed down, there will be US versions in many variations.

sal


That should address the lock action issue you are having. It will also be nice to have a lower cost option available.

What was the date of that?
 
Have to agree about the smoothness on the CF Native 4. It's not as smooth as any of the other Spydies I have. The other thing I'm not fond of is the position of the hole. It sits fairly deep and combined with the action makes it a little difficult to open. Mine also has a spot on the spine above the hole that looks like something slipped during the grinding process and left a 1/4" sized dip along the edge. It's a knife that never found it's way into my pocket.
 
Darn, I thought they were going to be FRN-handled with liners. I could have sworn I read that a while back.
 
Have to agree about the smoothness on the CF Native 4. It's not as smooth as any of the other Spydies I have. The other thing I'm not fond of is the position of the hole. It sits fairly deep and combined with the action makes it a little difficult to open. Mine also has a spot on the spine above the hole that looks like something slipped during the grinding process and left a 1/4" sized dip along the edge. It's a knife that never found it's way into my pocket.

It doesn't look like this does it?

IMG_0782.jpg


If I'm not mistaken, thats how Spyderco denotes that the knife is a "Second"
 
Thanks for your review. I've had the screws for the pocketclip come loose (actually lost one of them) twice now. After the first time I used Blue Loctite but they still keep coming loose. Two of the screw holes in the CF are stripped and I can no longer get a "bite" with the mounting screws. Like the OP stated, I think it would have been a good idea to have the screws go into the liner for a more secure mounting. Excellent knife....but I like all of the Natives:D
 
It doesn't look like this does it?

IMG_0782.jpg


If I'm not mistaken, thats how Spyderco denotes that the knife is a "Second"

No, it's a much more dished out shape and on the other side of the blade. Definitely not a second.
 
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