Natty Bumppo and the 15OT knife / a Codger ramble

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Beginning with Adam in the Christian Bible, men have always had the insatiable drive to name things. Adam, it is written, named the animals that God brought before hi, and since then it has been given to all mankind to put a name to a thing as a way of identifying that thing, in a way, posessing it.

Astronomers named planets, stars, and consellations, explorers named islands and even continents. Naturally, scientists named their discoveries and inventors their latest inventions. Naming a thing took on a new meaning with modern marketing. Anyone who watched Roadrunner cartoons saw that every device the writer could imagine for the Wiley Coyote to use on Roadrunner bore the brand name "ACME", a name like "Peerless" harkening back to the early Sears Roebuck catalogs. Names and trademarks on those names became quite important to manufacturers and craftsmen. The term "patent" goes back to early England and Royal sanction , permission for the exclusive right to a name, a trade, or land.

Names given to knives, like any other manufactured item, play a big role in their marketing. With a marketing revolution in the latter part of the past century, fueled in part by televison, radio, and magazines, advertising demanded that products have memorable, catchy names, or names that envoked an open or subliminal connection in the mind of the audience with the product and quality, or value, uniqueness, or even nostalgia.

Schrade Walden Cutlery produced several new patterns of knives in the early to mid sixties that were unique enough to be patented and were good sellers from their introduction, but as time went by sales became fairly static as generations of new buyers came into the market. What worked for an earlier generation no longer caught the imagination and dollar of a newer generation who grew up with television and the new type of advertising aimed at them. Albert and Henry Baer were no marketing slouches, so they began giving names to their knife patterns, as well as the traditional pattern numbers on boxes, advertising, and catalogs.

The 15OT was first produced in 1964 with no name. In the 1965 catalog, it was refered to as "Hunter". It was in 1974 that the 15OT was seen with the name "Deer Slayer" and in 1976 the name was made one word, "Deerslayer" which was used as long as the pattern was made. The 165OT first appeared in the 1967 catalog and received it's name, Woodsman" in 1974. The previous year, 1973, the 152OT was introduced as the "Sharp Finger", later revised to one word like the Deerslayer. Most patterns introduced post '74 received names as they were first produced, such as the "Golden Spike".

While this list is by no means complete, it is an interesting exploration into Schrade history, and knife history in general. Many companies have since used the names "Deerslayer", and "Woodsman", as well as "Pathfinder", all used by James F. Cooper in his Leather Stocking Tales, a five book series about the fictional "Natty Bumppo" who dwelled in the wilds of what is now New York State during the era of the French and Indian war. Mr. Cooper was himself the son of the founder of Cooperstown New York. The names Mr. Cooper gave his hero throughout this series reflected his occupation and prowess at survival and woodsmanship, and the admiration of the British soldiers and Delaware tribes he lived and worked among. It is this link that I feel inspired the Baers to use those names in the first place.


Codger
P.S.- Many younger folk will have no idea who J.F. Cooper or Natty Bumppo were, since the serious study of American classic literature has long since fallen by the wayside, but a few of us Old Timers still re-read these timeless tomes.
 
Hold on now, Last of the Mohicans is still a beautifully shot, classic American movie, which still inspires some young ones (like me) to seek out the stories in The Leatherstocking Tales

what's more. some of us are required to take advanced Lit courses where we might be required to familiarize ourselves with Mr. Coopers work or have it used as an addendum to course materials relating to the French and Indian War in some American History course.

Fear not, Natty Bumppo lives on.
 
Old Codger, I really enjoy your musings and share your thirst for history. The first knives that I can remember buying for myself were a Buck General and a Puma Deer Hunter. I used them to skin my first bear back in 1970 and still have both of them.
 
Slim, it gladdens my heart to hear that! The charactor study of Natty has taken the time and interest of scholars for many years now since he was first introduced by Mr. Cooper. And many movies over the years have attempted to render cooper's tale, some departing broadly from his vision and descriptive narratives. DD Lewis tried, and I will in no way fault his acting, any more than I will the efforts of Bela Lugosi (1921 Lederstrumpf/Leatherstocking).
 
redshanks said:
Old Codger, I really enjoy your musings and share your thirst for history. The first knives that I can remember buying for myself were a Buck General and a Puma Deer Hunter. I used them to skin my first bear back in 1970 and still have both of them.
Thanks! I also have my first Woodsman and Deerslayer, though they were not bought for the names. It was only this century when I began collecting them and researching them that I even learned they had names! Funny how a lowley tool, knives in particular, can become such a familiar friend through the years. Treat them with respect, and they will be with you a lifetime. Dishonor them, betray them, and you will be poorer for it. Perhaps that is one reason I prize most highly the knives in my collection with a story behind them, and enjoy bringing the ugly duckling back to it's prime condition.

Codger
 
Can't say for sure I've ever read a "tome", but I've read a couple of books including those by James F. Cooper.

Paul
 
Codger_64 said:
Slim, it gladdens my heart to hear that! The charactor study of Natty has taken the time and interest of scholars for many years now since he was first introduced by Mr. Cooper. And many movies over the years have attempted to render cooper's tale, some departing broadly from his vision and descriptive narratives. DD Lewis tried, and I will in no way fault his acting, any more than I will the efforts of Bela Lugosi (1921 Lederstrumpf/Leatherstocking).

Wow, Bela Lugosi... I loved watching his films...

And I as well am familiar with the Leather Stocking tales, but I confess I find them to be more entertaining than literary in value... and Last of the Mohicans... well, passably entertaining, but otherwise an absolutely horrible novel... it's only held up as the prime example of American literature of the period because it's the ONLY American literature of the period... no offense, Codger.
 
Codger,
You are OK for a guy so FIXED in his ways..... :thumbup: :thumbup: .....ramble on, my friend.

Leather Stockings, Leather Stockings.....Ping Pong Balls.....Hmmmmm.....

Nah, I better not amble in that direction.

Bill
 
Samuel Clemmons berated the works of Cooper as well. He went on and on about the literary worthlessness of them, though I suspect that was partly fueled by professional jelousy, since Cooper, having died in 1851, was a more prolific and popular author than Clemmons at that time. Twain wrote some books and short stories of dubious value in my opinion as well.

A large part of the problem people have with reading the "Leather Stocking Tales", and even with writing movie scripts that follow the story, is that they are written in an archaic linguistic style. Reading the writings of other authors of the early to mid 1800's reveals that many words he uses were out of style and some have even changed their meaning since 1826. As much as popular language had changed by Clemmons time, this is even more so true today.

Fixed in my ways? Hmmm... yes, I suppose that is true. While the mechanics and motion of folding knives continues to fascinate some, I remain fixated on simpler knives whose interesting features remain their basic rigid geometry, and the materials that compose them. Afterall, that is one of the things that make me the Codger I yam.

Codger
 
If we all only liked vanilla...if we all only liked Mark Twain...if we all only liked folders :eek: :eek: .....
What a boring world it would be. :)

Bill
 
So true, so true. Do you have any idea how boring it gets building just one size and shape swimming pool? Luckily for me, a few people out there think "outside of the box", and I get to exercise my creativity.

Without the drive to build, to buy, to own "something different", we would still be living in our caves eating our raw meat and marrying our cousins. (wisecracks about Arkansas and Tennessee wisely avoided here please) :)

Codger
 
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