Neck knifes

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EveryDayGear

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I have a small-ish budget to get a neck knife, and im sort of stuck. Im looking at Boker+ and CRKT, which are nice knife companions offering pretty good budget options. But this knife is for self defence purposes, and the Ka-Bar TDI LDK looks like the one. But does anyone have a better idea or even some experience in these companies. Im also not a huge fan of bead blaster steel. Rusts easy :)
 
First off I'd like to say welcome to Bladeforums.
Secondly; What does a self-defense knife offer above a CCW and/or your feet? (rhetorical, answers can be found in the Prac Tac subforum)
Thirdly; pending what your state allows for carry, maybe look into some push daggers by Cold Steel, or like you said the TDI, which I believe comes in various sizes.

For utilitarian neck knife the classic answers are ESEE Izula, Becker Eskabar, BRKT Necker
 
I had this one made, ended up costing $100. 5.5" long, 3" blade, 1/8" thick. I intended to pocket carry but I made a belt loop out of paracord and wear it like a belt buckle. Dont even notice its there and takes zero time to draw. Due to the size it would be a good necker.
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Something to remeber is that if you are going to wear it around the neck it needs to have a very flat handle or it will be obvious under a shirt. If yo will carry on a belt or pocket this is less important.
 
mrynecy said:
If all you are looking for is SD blade, check out these customs by Big Chris. I bought 2. They are thin, light and razor sharp. You get a sheath & Tek Lok for $110 which is a great deal for a custom.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1079358-Buyer-s-Choice-Neck-Knives-100-TYD
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Great price for a custom indeed, and if I was going for utility I wouldn't mind...but IMO if you're looking strictly for a self defense knife(ie, something that will likely never be used, and if it IS used will likely be taken as evidence), I wouldn't wanna drop $110 on it. when you can get the Kabar TDI or various Cold Steel offerings quite a bit cheaper.

That said, I wouldn't really want to trust my life to a neck knife in the first place, if I really felt I needed a self-defense tool something a bit bigger would be preferred(and this is assuming a firearm isn't an option)
 
Why do you need a knife for SD purposes? Your answer might inform the type of knife you should look into, although I would point out that for civilians a knife is generally not a good choice for self defence.
 
I picked up a BlackJack Necker on the aftermarket for around $50.


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BlackJack Necker


I have been very impressed by the performance of this little knife.

That said, it's not something I would consider as a primary self defense tool.




Big Mike
 
Just throwing it out there I have modified some of my clothing so that I can conceal an 18" stick whenever I think I might need to defend myself, nowadays that isn't all that often since I have pretty good awareness and don't put myself in dangerous situations. Without a lot of training this is a very effective weapon, probably more effective than a very small knife, and won't get you into anywhere near as much trouble with the law.
 
@pacificmanitou would you be ok with sharing who made that gorgeous edc fixed blade for so cheap? What is the steel?
 
Moses2792796 said:
Why do you need a knife for SD purposes? Your answer might inform the type of knife you should look into, although I would point out that for civilians a knife is generally not a good choice for self defence.
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I am curious why you think a knife is not a good sd tool for a civilian. Not trying to start an argument, i am literally just curious.
 
@cchu518

That knife was made by Bryan Breeden (contact: tacklebreeden@yahoo.com) to my specs. Steel is O1 with a satin finish, scales are black linen micarta.
I like knives to be sturdier than they need to be for the tasks I use them for. This one is perfect.
 
pacificmanitou said:
I had this one made, ended up costing $100. 5.5" long, 3" blade, 1/8" thick. I intended to pocket carry but I made a belt loop out of paracord and wear it like a belt buckle. Dont even notice its there and takes zero time to draw. Due to the size it would be a good necker.
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Whos the maker?
 
gwebb said:
I am curious why you think a knife is not a good sd tool for a civilian. Not trying to start an argument, i am literally just curious.
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Because once you deploy a knife as a weapon you are pretty much committed to using lethal force, which will most probably be difficult to justify in court. Not only that it doesn't have much reach and can be used against you if you hesitate even slightly. For this reason you will need significant training to use the knife effectively in a self-defense situation, but if you have this training it will once again work against you in court. If you are a trained knife fighter carrying a tactical knife and use it for self-defense, even when it is totally justified, the prosecutors will claim that you basically prepared yourself for a situation like this and had every intention of using lethal force prior to the incident.

We should keep in mind that the goal of a self-defense incident is to escape without harm, not to 'win' and fight. There are numerous options which will give you a better chance to do this than a knife and will not land you in jail.

Having said all of that I can see the value in carrying a knife as an absolute last resort weapon for some crazy circumstance where you genuinely thought it was your only option. However you would have to exercise better judgement than most people have. For example, if I was carrying a knife, I wouldn't deploy it just because I got jumped by some thugs and was taking a beating, in this situation your chance of escaping relatively unscathed is not improved by deploying a small knife but your chance of going to jail is increased.
 
gwebb said:
I am curious why you think a knife is not a good sd tool for a civilian. Not trying to start an argument, i am literally just curious.
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To use a knife as a self defense tool against a determined attacker you need a tremendous amount of training...and then practice. Yes, the same is true for firearms but given the nature of the two different tools, the nature of training is very different too. In other words, there's a reason why people gave up edged weapons as quickly as they could manage to do so in favor of firearms. In a knife fight, say all the experts, you will be injured badly even if you "win"...you'll be cut up badly even if you make your attacker retreat. Such wounds may be life threatening. With a knife, you have no capability to stand off from the attacker...to be close enough to deploy a knife, he will be close enough to cut you. And of course if he has a gun...or a club/crowbar etc, he has totally got the advantage over you. It's just not like West Side story or Crocodile Dundee.
 
Ah HoosierQ you made a point that I missed in my post. If your attacker does happen to be armed then practically any weapon will trump a small knife just by virtue of reach alone. I'm saying if you really want a knife to be an effective weapon then in a situation where you're facing an armed opponent you probably want something closer to a short sword, think 12", and good luck justifying why you were carrying that! Remember I'm talking about why a knife is not a good self-defense weapon for a CIVILIAN. If you are in military or law enforcement it's a totally different situation.
 
Moses2792796 said:
Ah HoosierQ you made a point that I missed in my post. If your attacker does happen to be armed then practically any weapon will trump a small knife just by virtue of reach alone. I'm saying if you really want a knife to be an effective weapon then in a situation where you're facing an armed opponent you probably want something closer to a short sword, think 12", and good luck justifying why you were carrying that! Remember I'm talking about why a knife is not a good self-defense weapon for a CIVILIAN. If you are in military or law enforcement it's a totally different situation.
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Agreed 100%. The only knife I would consider to provide any chance at all to the untrained civilian would be a Khukuri. They're big, they're sharp, they're heavy at the tip (many of them) and one deploys it in a more natural striking motion...like a club or a bat. Even then, you're still mighty close to somebody you want to not be close to.
 
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