Need a Safe.... and help

Raden

Raden

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Well now that I have your attention.

I need some recomendations for a new safe. Lot's of Knives and Guns with some room to grow. I know alot of us have as many guns as busse's :D so share what you have and if you'd recomend it. Not looking to spend more than $1400 atm
 
I went with a Liberty and I have no regrets. I have no exp. with any other brand.
 
Yes, this truely does belong in G&G.

I hope the hogs will give thier input for ya bro.

May want to check into making a "safe closet". Bit more room, and can be disguised.

Hammy.
 
X-Head said:
I went with a Liberty and I have no regrets. I have no exp. with any other brand.
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The picture below is of a Liberty Safe (10-12 gauge ?). It was entered with a common axe, within 5 minutes. Liberty, Champion, etc.. make Residential Security Containers, not safes. Get a minimum 3/16 inch outer body for RSC's. Generally, fire ratings can be compared with the thickness of gypsum board. Get a larger capacity safe than you think you need. You will fill it up. Educate yourself and ask a thousand questions, call the manufacturers themselves. I would recommend a high end Ft. Knox for RSC's. Dig deep in your pocket and make it hurt a little (alot), or save your $1400 and hide everything. IMHO.

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I have a Champion. It seems good to me. The body is a double wall of 3/16" steel. I have no misconceptions that it's impenetrable. As was recently demonstrated in Brazil, no safe or vault is impenetrable.



Dig deep in your pocket and make it hurt a little (alot), or save your $1400 and hide everything.
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That's good advice. If I came into your house not knowing anything about where you keep anything but looking for the mayonnaise, I might have troubles finding it. It's just a little jar. It could be hidden anywhere. But, most people keep their mayonnaise in the refrigerator in the kitchen. The kitchen is probably not to hard to find and once you're their, the 'fridge is pretty obvious. When you put a big safe in your house, it says loud and clear: the good stuff is in here! So, now it's just a matter of whether or not your safe can withstand the attack.
 
Jay?
I thought you sold me everything?
So you were holding stuff back then, ok, that's fine.
I'm looking for a new safe myself, something I can build in a wall or disguise somehow. So if you want my old one.. To put your goodies in... your welcome to drive up to NY and take it for free. Only problem is I've only got 1 key :rolleyes:
Sorry that was a bit obvious!!!
Anthony :)
 
Just to add to the anecdotal experience file, I've owned a mid to upper-range Fort Knox safe for about 15 years now and I couldn't be happier with it's performance. It sits at the end of my garage nearest the door so it's exposed to whatever passes for temperature variations in this part of the country. We're also only about a mile and a half from the beach, so it's exposed to a good bit of moisture year round yet has never showed any signs of rusting or oxidation. And one of those inexpensive plug-in anti-humidity rods is all that's ever been required to keep the contents in pristine condition.
 
Bronco said:
............ It sits at the end of my garage nearest the door.........
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I wouldn't suggest keeping it near the door of your garage, it is like advertising :eek: . A few minutes with an F250, a chain/come-along and I could open it at my home at my leisure. Put it in your home, and hire a structural engineer to suggest reinforcement of your home (if necessary). IMHO
 
"When you put a big safe in your house, it says loud and clear: the good stuff is in here! So, now it's just a matter of whether or not your safe can withstand the attack."

So if I have a safe that is easily findable, and a second one that is hidden, most people would find the easy one and spend their time working on it and not look for the other? Fill it with gold plated lead bars so that they load down with worthless stuff and do not have time/strength to look for the real stuff? Or just booby trap the decoy safe with a paint ball grenade?
 
All the interviews I've heard with "former smash 'n grab burglar now turned security consultant" types convey the same message: "If I couldn't get in-and-out of the house in 5-7 minutes, I didn't bother. After that time, the chances of the cops showing up get too high to stay in the house. The goodies were almost always in the bedroom closet or drawers."

Watching these guys doing an on-the-fly casing of the house and grabbing goodies would make a time/motion efficiency expert drool. They move very fast, very smooth, and very efficiently. It's mighty educational, as well as entertaining, to see these guys stage a "break-in" on someone's house as part of the tv program to show both how easy it is and the consistency of human behavior in stashing goodies.

The safe doesn't make it impossible to lose your goodies. It makes it inconvenient enough for the bad guys to get your goodies that they'll move down the block to easier pickings. The safe's job is to make your valuables heavy/awkward enough to carry out that the burglars won't take the time to open it or haul it out.

The things that these former bad guys say are deterrents to burglars are obvious alert neighbors (#1 on their "I hate to see it" list), loud dogs, alarms & lights, and indications of security monitoring of the house (signs on the yard, stickers in the windows, etc).
 
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