Need advice on Becker Necker Purchase

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Guys, I'm new to this forum and could use your help.

I had been looking for a good small knife for short hike/survival/basic use. I wanted a fixed blade. I usually carry a Kershaw Leek or Chive during week at work and I have a larger fixed blade (Cold Steel Recon Tanto). I was looking for something that was definitely smaller and easier to carry around than the Recon Tanto. I wanted it to be around 3-4" blade (a little longer than the Leek and much stronger).

I started looking at neck knives and thought that the BK-11 and the RAT Izula came closest to what I was looking for. I liked the idea of either of them hung in a Mercop Mercharness (although I have not tried that). Well for me the Becker was my choice based on the larger blade and the flexibility of using the TDI clip.

During my research on these I read a review (Woods Monkey?) that stated that the epoxy coated carbon steel version fit too tightly in the sheath and was difficult to extract. He said the Carbon San Mai blade version had a perfect fit. I really didn't want to spend the extra bucks for the CSM version, but didn't want to cheap out and not be happy with the overly tight sheath. If not for that worry, I would have just ordered the much less expensive version.

Well here I am waiting on my new knife to arrive and I find this forum. And guess what, there is a new Necker version on the way with the supposedly more comfortable handle.

Now I don't know if I should cancel/return my purchase and wait for the new model. How long of a wait will it be? Now I am definitely sold on this design, and how strong the fan base is. That says a lot to me, and I will possess one of them. But which one? There is no where locally that I can go to fondle these knives, so I'd like some feedback from you guys who have fiddled with the BK-11 and the Izula.

Here's the question: If you were only going to own one version of the Becker Necker, which handle design would be your preference? If the new version is stongly preferred, I suppose you would be willing to wait for it (6-12 months?). Or is your preference so slight that you wouldn't wait very long for the new version?

BTW does anyone know how long it will be before the new version is stocked at the major online outlets?

What else can I tell you, oh, I probably won't have much use for the bottle opener/wire breaker and I do plan on experimenting with cord wrapping the handle.

Thanks for reading my long winded drivel and thanks in advance for any opinions,

Karl
 
I have 2 of the plain vanilla kabar bk11 neckers.. I love them.. I ordered after market handle scales for mine and it makes the handle much more usable.. but it is dandy the way it was. Honestly I try to spend as much time as possible in the woods trying to improve my wilderness skills and lately the bk 11 has been one of my got to blades...
As far as the sheath goes the retention is tight.. But that is exactly what you want in a neck knife IMO.... i'd much rather have to tug a little harder to get it out, than have it slip out and bite me as it falls to the ground... or have it fall out unoticed on the trail or washaway while crossing a stream... Good retention in a survival sheath is what you want.
Just my 2 cents fwiw, ymmv
 
Karl,
Bits I can say to help.
#1 - You can take the coating off if you like.
#2 - I have had my Necker for about a year and the fit is NOT tight, in fact I was going to try to tighten it up.

So, as for the choice between the standard and the San Mai? I would go with the standard knife.

Regarding handle? I double wraped mine for comfort. A weave followed by a standard wrap.

As for the new model? I'd keep what you've ordered and try to wear it out before the new one hits the stores. Then you'll have an excuse for buying another! :D

All that said, which did you order? From the best I can tell you went with the San Mai?
 
I have the standard BK11 and the sheath retention is excellent. The handle is a little short but my medium sized hand fits well. I'm thinking of getting the micarta scales to make the grip more hand filling.
I'm intrigued by the new necker design and I'll probably get one of those when they're released.
 
Welcome to Beckerland, kfcounts. Between the San-Mai version and the regular carbon version, if it were me, I'd go for the plain ol' carbon steel BK-11. Everything RescueRiley said about sheath retention is dead on, and the man definitely knows what he's talking about.

As far as the new one coming out, the BK-14 "Brat," it should be out soon. Personally, I'd wait for that one. We're not talking six months, we're talking soon — although I can't put a date on "soon."

Either way, the Becker neckers are great knives, so you should be happy with whichever one you get.
 
#1 - You can take the coating off if you like.

#2 - I have had my Necker for about a year and the fit is NOT tight, ...

As for the new model? I'd keep what you've ordered and try to wear it out before the new one hits the stores. Then you'll have an excuse for buying another! :D

All that said, which did you order? From the best I can tell you went with the San Mai?

Bridgeman,

I ordered the San Mai from Amazon.com and pricing was reasonable (~$70 shipped). That being said, the regular version is selling for a little less than $32 with free shipping.

I didn't find these forums until after I had ordered. When I started reading the opinions here, most expressed the opinion that they preferred the 1095 steel. If the BK-14 is truly going to be out in a few weeks and its an ergonomic upgrade, then I could wait and actually save myself some money. And if the BK-14 is priced comparably to the BK-11, I could afford both versions, or the BK-14 and a BK-13.

BTW how exactly do you remove the coating? Sand it off with a belt sander?
 
BTW how exactly do you remove the coating? Sand it off with a belt sander?

No idea, sorry. I am sure you will get an answer though because a lot of folks have. I was saying that if it IS too tight you could remove the coating. Mine is actually too loose WITH the coating. I'd let it break in.

I also am interested in the 14.

Greg
 
Bridgeman,

I ordered the San Mai from Amazon.com and pricing was reasonable (~$70 shipped). That being said, the regular version is selling for a little less than $32 with free shipping.

I didn't find these forums until after I had ordered. When I started reading the opinions here, most expressed the opinion that they preferred the 1095 steel. If the BK-14 is truly going to be out in a few weeks and its an ergonomic upgrade, then I could wait and actually save myself some money. And if the BK-14 is priced comparably to the BK-11, I could afford both versions, or the BK-14 and a BK-13.

BTW how exactly do you remove the coating? Sand it off with a belt sander?

Simple paint remover gel found at almost any hardware store will take it off.

There have been a number of threads here on the Becker forum dealing with that very subject. Look back through previous threads for anything like "Stripping my..." and you'll get all the info you need.

Good luck.
 
I've got the plain carbon BK-11 with the add-on micarta scales as well as an Izula with their handle scales.
On the whole, I prefer the BK-11. I like its blade shape and slightly larger size.
I usually end up grabbing the Izula to use though just because it is that much more comfortable in the hand.
So my advice would be to wait a little bit and get the best of both worlds with the Brat.

Edit: If you can't wait, check out a ~$16 Buck Paklite to tide you over till the Brat gets here ;)
 
Hey Karl

I own all 3 models, the BK11, the Izula and Beckers new BRAT, and theyre all good knives. Id rate the BRAT as 1st (perfect), Izula 2nd (great handle /short blade) and the BK11 as 3rd (great blade but short handle).

My BK11 has a perfect fit in the sheath, you shouldnt have anything to worry about. The coating isnt so thick as to interfere with the sheathing/unsheathing, on any of my neckers. My advice to you, is buy the Becker version you want, and dont worry about sheath tightness. Dont buy the San Mai ONLY because you think the others bind in their sheaths,

My only gripe with the BK11 is that the handle didnt fit my large hands very well, but that all comes down to preference and size of hands. Its not like it was uncomfortable to use, it was just a tad too short. Wrapping it makes it nicer to handle.

The BRAT is soon to be launched, and IMO the newly designed handle is much more comfy.When the new one comes out you can handle it and see if its worth buying. I believe its going to be priced right, so you wont break the bank if you decide to go for it.

Regards,
 
Well I didn't think it through too long. If I had, I would have realized that if the sheath is too tight, I should be able to very lightly wear down the inside of the polymer sheath at the pinch point with very fine sand paper (or some dremel attachment).
 
Well my San Mai Necker arrived and I agree with some of your comments on the handle. I will be returning this one and definitely buying the BRat BK-14.

On a purely cosmetic note. The San Mai blade is not very pretty. I expected the blade to be much more finished/polished than this one is. Now I have a composite blade Kershaw Leek like this
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If I were to keep this one I'd want to polish up the blade. Also, the edges of the cut outs in the handle are uncomfortably sharp IMO. Of course I could smooth that out with a little elbow grease. But if that wasn't done, I think those edges would abrade my paracord wrap.
 
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