Need Advice On Benchtop Hardness Testers

Jeffinn

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I’ve started looking at used benchtop hardness testers. The new ones are priced a bit beyond my reach. A lot of the ones I see listed need repairs or parts. I’m curious as to how difficult desktop hardness testers are to work on? Im assuming that the mechanisms are fairly complex but since I’ve never seen one disassembled it’s impossible for me to know. Is repairing one of these something an average, mechanically inclined individual can handle?
Thanks for any advice you can offer.
Jeff
 
I’ve started looking at used benchtop hardness testers. The new ones are priced a bit beyond my reach. A lot of the ones I see listed need repairs or parts. I’m curious as to how difficult desktop hardness testers are to work on? Im assuming that the mechanisms are fairly complex but since I’ve never seen one disassembled it’s impossible for me to know. Is repairing one of these something an average, mechanically inclined individual can handle?
Thanks for any advice you can offer.
Jeff
Just keep looking for a good used one with all the components and in working order.
 
They are definitely complex in that the weights, linkages and other moving parts must work together properly in order for it to be accurate. So just because you can get everything to move correctly doesn't necessarily mean you wont have trouble getting it calibrated properly. Manufacturing any broken or missing pieces will likely require some machining skills.

That said they are not rocket science. It's a bunch of mechanical parts working together. If you are able to study something mechanical and figure out how it is supposed to work then you will be fine. If you've ever completely disassembled a semi automatic pistol and successfully put it back together then you've got the skills.
 
I wouldn't consider buying one that was incomplete or needed unknown repairs to get it working, it could be a pandora's box.
I would search out machine shops or small manufacturing business's and see if I could use there's occasionally. that's what I did years ago and the owner was happy to test my knives.
I kept my eyes and ears open and finally found a really nice one at a decent price.

Same with a surface grinder, just waited for something nice to show up and after about four years of hunting and looking I found a really nice one that came out of a machine shop.
they had six others up and running when I picked it up.
 
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I picked up an older one on FB marketplace last winter (Wilson 1JR). I looked at pictures of several and waited until I saw one that had all of the weights, a bunch of anvils and stuff, and then met the guy and brought my stuff to test it. He told me it worked and was accurate, but he was using a C block with the B weight stack and a B indenter, so he had no clue how to use it. I had read up on them a bit, so I found the correct indenter and did the full weight stack. Once I got the correct weight stack on it, it was readying 2 hrc low on blanks I had professionally heat treated and the HRC test block, so it was in the ball park. The indenter was chipped, so I picked up a cheap one online for $23. Got it home, read through the manuals, adjusted the dash pot speed, adjusted the dial levers (should be done after transporting) and it pretty much is dead on my 2 HRC test blocks and blades I had Bos Heat treating heat treat for me. Between the indenter and tester itself, I paid $350. It also came with a few manuals and books about older testers, so I scanned those to PDF files since they go over how to adjust it and what it needs.

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It's an open model, so I typically remove the weight stack if I am not testing anything for a while to reduce the wear on the edges of the levers and stuff. It's smaller and much lighter than other ones I have seen, which is great!

A buddy picked up an even older one on FB market place, but it doesn't have a weight stack and the anvil posts are a smaller version, so we have some work to get it up and running this winter! We are going to use PVC tube and shot to get the weight stack correct, he had some other anvils that will have their stems turned down and machined flat (remove corrosion).
 
One thing I noticed, with mine anyway, is that the dashpot needs some adjustment in the summer vs winter. my shop goes from over 100 degrees to the 30s. "course I'm not doing much when it's in the 30s" but from 100 degrees to 40s-50s the speed will slow down alot.
 
I have mine inside the house, but near an exterior wall/window, so I will be relocating it shortly! I am trying to find a nice, solid table it can live on instead of a dining room table. Wife is getting made I took over the dining room table with my tester and knife making stuff! She is OK with the tester staying inside due to the weather changes, but it needs a better home!
 
One thing I noticed, with mine anyway, is that the dashpot needs some adjustment in the summer vs winter. my shop goes from over 100 degrees to the 30s. "course I'm not doing much when it's in the 30s" but from 100 degrees to 40s-50s the speed will slow down alot.
Yes I’ve noticed that mine needs a warm up period sometimes. A few readings are high or low and once everything is moving it’s very consistent. Also it lives in my unheated garage so in the winter I have to run a little spacer heater by it. I’d like to move it inside but it weights about 200lbs.
 
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