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In November of 2002 I commisioned a custom knifemaker to make a knife for me. He quoted me a finish time of Feb. 2003. The finish date has long come and gone, and still no knife. At this point I even have trouble getting him to respond to my e-mails. Being the trusting sort I am I paid for the knife in full and upfront, since my experience with custom makers has always been positive. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
Well the estimated, or promised date was feb? I would say that perhaps there is a good reason, but being it is now June, and still no response? that is questionable. Is it someone who does get on the forums? have you tried to call this person? and would a registered letter be an option?
 
My experience with custom makers is that they're always late. There's a lot of reasons for this and they're all legitimate. These guys are artists and craftsmen, not project managers. If I was told Feb 2003, I would read that as "maybe Feb 2004." (I do, however, have one makers working for me right now who promised Bladeshow 2003 and who, I think, just might make it. I'm very excited about that.)
 
I myself lost the contact details of a customer who had ordered a knife. He hadn't paid yet, but a lot happened in between his order, his knife never being made 'cos I couldn't confirm the details and finally meeting up with him again a year later at a knife show. I kinda figured he would be there and he made a bit of a joke about it - he was good about it all. All in all, there didn't seem much urgency in it since he never actually contacted me either - he did have my details. But the funny thing was that he had come to expect that makers take their time and an estimated delivery time is no more than a rough guess which could be off by a couple of years !!

But seriously, most makers, being part-time, often have "other" pesky jobs, committments that need more attention than the knifemaking. Often there are ongoing or sudden problems like illness, injuries, relationships, breakups, new child, gone bankrupt, house burned down, who knows - gone to jail, even died ???

Having said that, nothing beats good correspondence and a realistic outlook. (From both parties.) Emails and quick letters, notes, phone calls, and updates, should receive a portion of a knifemaker's schedule, as should research, trying new techniques, going to knife shows, getting together with other knifemakers to talk shop etc.

I'd guess that most people would much prefer to KNOW that their project has gone down the drain, or the maker realises he can't do it. Can't get the materials for another 6months, has run out of gas for the forge etc. Its better to know than to wonder aimlessly and perhaps get that little bit paranoid, especially if money has already changed hands.

Some makers who have 2 year waits (or even 15years in a couple of cases), still take orders because those guys placing orders are willing to wait that long. I'd assume that there was some kind of understanding there.

My 2 cents worth. Jason.
 
First I hope that you have retained proof of payment. Secondly it is time to exhaust all other means of contacting the knife maker. If this fails then you have two options, one is to kiss your $ goodbye and the other is to take him/her to court either small claims or civil. (Seek professional council in your jurisdiction). It's probably all just a gap in comuunication. That's the way most of these things turn out to be.:)
 
Well, being in a similiar situation let me add my $.02. Around January of last year I ordered my first custom knife from a well known and respected maker. He said it could probably be finished for me by the end of the year, or early this year. Well, those times came and went. Honestly though, I have no problems with that for two reasons. Whenever I email him to ask about the progress he responds quickly, and tells me whats going on. Secondly I have not given him any money yet, so I don't feel as if he is trying to pull a fast one.

I understand, as Gollnick said, that custom knife makers are artists and craftsman. When they give a date it is just a guess, and just about anything can happen to change that date. That being said, if you are having problems getting information from the maker, and have already paid in full, you have a reason to be a bit nervous. I would be too, I would second the idea of trying all methods of contacting him. Emails are lost, servers go down, computers crash. I would try giving him a call, or if that doesn't work get out the old pen and paper.
 
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