Need help distinguishing Sch Walden "styles"

NAFix

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I recently picked up a Junior Premium Stock Knife tang stamped "SCHRADE" over "WALDEN" over "N.Y. U.S.A." In Levine's Guide 4th Edition he distinguishes the two Schrade Walden brands listed as Schrade Cut Co. style or Ulster style. I don't know the difference between the two styles. Since "WALDEN" is part of the brand, from my way of looking at it, that could still be on the Ulster style made in Ellenville. The older of the two is also rated as of higher value. So obviously I want this one to be the Schrade Cut Co. style. Is there an easy way to determine one style from the other?
 
Look at the tangstamp. It could be Schrade Walden, Schrade, Ulster, Or Schrade cut co. Someone else will pop in and give you a more accurate explanation, I am sure.

Codger
 
I think I remember seeing that this stamp...
SCHRADE
WALDEN
N.Y. U.S.A.
Was used beginning in the early '50s until about '73??

Someone smarter will be along soon....that is just about anyone who chooses to post, I guess... :D

Bill
 
Schrade Cut Co was used from 03-46 ( approx) Schrade Walden 46-73 ( approx) Schrade Waldens were made in both Walden and Ellenville. Ulster style just means it was made in Ellenville when Baer ( the owner ) moved from Walden in 56 to the Ulster plant in Ellenville. The handle material will give a hint to a closer age the most common being jigged delrin which makes it late 60 tys until 73. In a natural material jigged bone, cell, pearl pre 60. This tang was also reintroduced just before Schrades demise. So really a picture would tell a lot of the story. Schrade cuts ( generally not all patterns) are considered ( as a rule of thumb ) as having the collectors highest value. Schrade Waldens in the Schrade Cut ( or walden variety ) are usually more sought than the Ulster variety although I never found it a big deal nor is it a big price factor. All these knives are rising in value especially now. The determining factor in where these knives were made, if in a natural material is the way the tang stamp is struck the Schrade cut (Walden) stamp is often cleaner or crisper more in the older fashion. Takes a good eye and really is no big deal. Price can vary widely from 10 or fifteen dollars for an average delrin version in decent shape to a couple of hundred for a nice pearl version. LT
 
LT,

Thanks for clarifying that again. I'm sure you've done so before but......well, it's kinda like leading a horse to water... :D

Nice avatar.

H.G.W.T.
Wire Paladin...San Francisco.

Bill
 
Love the Avatar, LT.

This question was in the BRL forum and I didn't really ignore it, but I could not fomulate an answer. I think LT nailed it down, a much better answer than BRL gave. Much better.

NAFix, our man got it right for you.

Phil
 
Yeah... that cleared it up a lot. Thanx LT. I guess Levine is getting pretty selective in what kind of stupid questions he's willing to bother with from relatively new collectors. I was a bit shocked and offended by his answer. Like I should have known the answer before I asked the question (?). Guess I won't waste time over there anymore trying to get clarification on something that isn't clear in his book. I think I've just decided to start hanging on to all the old Schrades I find in my yard sale-ing. To me, all things considerd, they're worth more than they're "worth," if you know what I mean....
Thanx, again all, NAFix
 
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