Need help finding first knife

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My lady and I just picked up hiking and are planning our first 3 day backpacking trip soon. I wanted to buy myself a good knife for general outdoor purposes. I want it to be Durable, Fixed Blade, partially serrated, for $80 Max. Any suggestions?
 
Welcome to the Traditional Forum! You may find more luck in the General Forum for the answer you are seeking.

If it helps though:
You could always pick up a KA-BAR if your heart is set on serrations. I have never needed them though, and personally do not like them at all for the outdoors. I love Mora's for a very dependable, inexpensive, light and impressive tool for the outdoors myself.
 
Welcome to the Traditional Forum! You may find more luck in the General Forum for the answer you are seeking.

If it helps though:
You could always pick up a KA-BAR if your heart is set on serrations. I have never needed them though, and personally do not like them at all for the outdoors. I love Mora's for a very dependable, inexpensive, light and impressive tool for the outdoors myself.

where could Find these mora knives, I see them mentioned a lot on this forum.
 
Gave you a link on your profile to get ya started. Hope you find what you are looking for.
 
Mora Clipper, great choice, amazing quality for such a cheap price.
 
@mods: I think this thread should be moved to the Wilderness and Survival sub-forum.

@keepitsteady: The Mora Clipper looks like a fine choice. If you find that caring for carbon steel in a wet environment becomes a problem for you, another alternative would be the Buck Bucklite Max Large, which has Buck's great 420HC steel and a 4" drop point blade. Can be found with a nice safety orange handle too.

FWIW, while I find it comforting to have a fixed blade in my pack, I end up using a folding knife with 3" - 3.5" blade. The Buck Ecolite 112 or 110 are solid choices (if you prefer stainless), as is the Opinel #9 or #10 (if you prefer carbon). I find that sheath knives interfere with the hip belt of my pack, and I strongly to prefer to have a knife on me at all times. So, I carry a folder in a front pocket. Light weight is a huge plus, hence the recommendation of the Ecolite or Opinel. These knives handle almost anything I've ever encountered in the 30 years of backpacking, climbing, ski and bike touring I've done. Almost...

I find there are other tools needed on the trail. Scissors are needed for bandage prep (it's when, not if) and small pliers, drivers and such are useful for driving needles through heavy materials to repair a busted pack or tent or repairing a failed stove in the field. I carry a very small key ring sized Leatherman in my pack for this. Just enough. The EDC sized ones are reasonable to carry too, but I cant recommend the full sized ones if you already have a real knife. Just too much weight for not that much extra functionality.

Two things worth mentioning as you and her plan and prepare (a big part of the fun!!)...

1) When talking about such things on forums, I find it useful to be aware that there are several different traditions or schools of thought about backpacking and wilderness travel. There is the classic backpacking/mountain climbing point of view. There is the hunting/fishing/pack animal point of view. There is the primitive survivalist/bushcrafting point of view. And, increasingly, there is the military/tactical point of view. Each is legitimate. And you'll find forums with biases one way or another. I mention this because the feedback and guidance you'll get will tend to go in very different directions depending on the tradition. There's no one right answer and the right answers will conflict.

2) While I hunt and am very comfortable with that tradition, I have the most experience as a backpacker, climber and ski tourer, so I'll speak out of that tradition for a moment. Many people hike great distances like the Pacific Crest Trail or the Appalachian Trail carrying nothing in way of a knife than a key ring sized Victorinox Classic SAK. It's not at all unreasonable if you fully embrace ultra light hiking techniques (rely on a stove for heat) and leave no trace ethics (avoid cutting vegetation in high use areas). As noted above, I'm more comfortable with a bit more than that but the point here is that you should feel free to carry as much or as little knife with you. It really depends on your approach, what techniques you use and, in the end, what makes you happiest.

To this end, here are some of the books I've found to be the most helpful in learning backpacking skills: "The Complete Walker" by Colin Fletcher, "The Backpacker's Handbook" by Chris Townsend, "Backpacking: One Step at a Time" by Harvey Manning (dated, but still very relevant and a real classic).

Have a great time!
 
To the OP - since you're buying a Mora, why not buy 2? That way you are accomplishing a couple worthwhile items: 1) you and your S/O will each have a very capable knife so she doesn't have to come asking for yours 2) since she will be using a knife in the outdoors (hopefully a lot!), she will begin to appreciate the need for a good, solid knife which makes acquiring *new knives* easier!!!! 3) she can learn new skills alongside you and as a couple you will have a new area of learning and enjoyment together - all for the low price of adding a 2nd Mora to your order.

As to the roll of knives in backpacking/mountaineering: I wrestle with the divergent camps as pinnah alludes to - there is definitely some conceptual animosity and elitism in each 'camp' toward the other.

I've had my feet in improvised living/survival/hunting for much of my life and know the value of a good knife for those tasks. However, i have also been an active backpacker and climber for nearly as long (and more active in that role more recently) and understand that when i allow myself to depend on my backpacking gear my need for a knife rarely exceeds a simple Swiss Army knife or my Leatherman Wave.

I *never* see a fixed blade knife at a climbing/hiking camp or trailhead as everyone is 'gearing up' for the day (or however long the trip). Maybe a folder of some type (and usually serrated - which i abhor), but never fixed blades. I think this is a huge oversight by the backpacking community and one i've been guilty of as well, though my skill-set is a different than most backpackers.

I think you're on the right track by adding a solid, light-weight knife (like the Mora Clipper/Companion MG) to your backpacking kit.
 
As to the roll of knives in backpacking/mountaineering: I wrestle with the divergent camps as pinnah alludes to - there is definitely some conceptual animosity and elitism in each 'camp' toward the other.

It's sad, unneeded and unhelpful. Each tradition on its own is so rich and has so much to offer the others. I hiked up Mt. Whitney via the Mountaineers Route many years ago with 2 buds who were Naval officers. They taught me so much. Like, so long as the hike is done under 24 hours, it's a day hike (20 hours). And, keeping the team together and safe is paramount. I never experienced such commitment to the team from my backpacking buddies.

Fast forward several years later when they came east. We went on a ski tour. Snow obscured the trail and we were reduced to orienteering through high balsam and birch to find the pond/shelter for the night. I was able to move into "hunting mode" easily while trying to keep them calm and we hit the pond dead center doing dead reckoning. Had I not spent years marching through the snowy woods hunting with my grandfather, that's a skill I wouldn't have learned.

As I gotten older, I've come to see conceptual animosity and elitism as thinly veiled make up that one puts on the face of fear and self doubt. Ok, there's that as well as the fun of wearing buffalo plaid hats at ski touring centers just to get the reactions!
 
Ok, there's that as well as the fun of wearing buffalo plaid hats at ski touring centers just to get the reactions!

^ love it!!!! Like you and many others, i've learned there are many right ways to do things - it's the short-sighted and unimaginative that drag us all down.... but hey, on a positive note, it's nearly NEW YEAR! Hip hip hooray for new knives in a new year!
 
I know I'll be slammed hard for this but don't buy the Mora, man. Not really good knives, just good for the price. I recommend you go ahead and spend the $80 and get your self something that you can take pride in and depend on. You may even find that you've discovered another fun hobby in addition to hiking. Look at some of the Beckers and ESEE's.
 
I know I'll be slammed hard for this but don't buy the Mora, man. Not really good knives, just good for the price. I recommend you go ahead and spend the $80 and get your self something that you can take pride in and depend on. You may even find that you've discovered another fun hobby in addition to hiking. Look at some of the Beckers and ESEE's.

What personal experience is this based on?


Go with the Mora. They're fantastic blades, especially for the money. They'll do anything I would expect my $2-300 customs to do, at a lighter weight too. If you decide you want to invest in something a little fancier and more expensive, use the Mora as a baseline as to what you like and don't like. Take the things you would like improved and research from there.

I didn't do this. I spent loads of money on knives before getting a Mora to see what all the talk was about. Turns out I could've saved hundreds(thousands?) if I'd gone with a Mora from the start. Of course that only addresses the issue of what I 'need' in a knife, and not what I 'want' just because I enjoy them, so really it probably wouldn't have saved any money. I enjoy using a nice knife, but the reality is a knife in the same size range isn't doing anything a Mora couldn't.
 
Start with the mora bro, they work well but more importantly they give you a base from which you can start to understand what you really want and need in a woods knife. I know alot of great Bushman that havn't looked any further than the mora clipper. I own knives that cost 10x more that dont do the job any better
 
What personal experience is this based on?


Go with the Mora. They're fantastic blades, especially for the money. They'll do anything I would expect my $2-300 customs to do, at a lighter weight too. If you decide you want to invest in something a little fancier and more expensive, use the Mora as a baseline as to what you like and don't like. Take the things you would like improved and research from there.

I didn't do this. I spent loads of money on knives before getting a Mora to see what all the talk was about. Turns out I could've saved hundreds(thousands?) if I'd gone with a Mora from the start. Of course that only addresses the issue of what I 'need' in a knife, and not what I 'want' just because I enjoy them, so really it probably wouldn't have saved any money. I enjoy using a nice knife, but the reality is a knife in the same size range isn't doing anything a Mora couldn't.

Just out of curiosity, what type of customs are we talking here? Personally I expect my 2 and 3 hundred dollar customs to take a lot more lateral stress and abuse in general than I would expect a $30.00 Mora to handle, but we may be into different styles of knives. My favorite customs tend to be made of thicker steel, and full tang.
 
What personal experience is this based on?


Go with the Mora. They're fantastic blades, especially for the money. They'll do anything I would expect my $2-300 customs to do, at a lighter weight too. If you decide you want to invest in something a little fancier and more expensive, use the Mora as a baseline as to what you like and don't like. Take the things you would like improved and research from there.

I didn't do this. I spent loads of money on knives before getting a Mora to see what all the talk was about. Turns out I could've saved hundreds(thousands?) if I'd gone with a Mora from the start. Of course that only addresses the issue of what I 'need' in a knife, and not what I 'want' just because I enjoy them, so really it probably wouldn't have saved any money. I enjoy using a nice knife, but the reality is a knife in the same size range isn't doing anything a Mora couldn't.

I have a fair bit of field experience with Mora's actually, I've seen them fail time and again doing simple bushcraft tasks, even causing injury on one occasion. I just dont trust them. Sorry if you disagree, dude. I know a lot of guys swear by their Mora. I still own a couple but they stay in the food-prep box I take when truck camping.
 
Go with the Mora. They're fantastic blades, especially for the money. They'll do anything I would expect my $2-300 customs to do, at a lighter weight too. If you decide you want to invest in something a little fancier and more expensive, use the Mora as a baseline as to what you like and don't like. Take the things you would like improved and research from there.

+1!

Start with the Mora. It might be all that you ever want or need (good chance, too!). If it's not, you'll know from your own experience what you want or need, and can then make an intelligent choice of another knife, with very little money expended on the learning part.

Stay sharp,
desmobob
 
Just out of curiosity, what type of customs are we talking here? Personally I expect my 2 and 3 hundred dollar customs to take a lot more lateral stress and abuse in general than I would expect a $30.00 Mora to handle, but we may be into different styles of knives. My favorite customs tend to be made of thicker steel, and full tang.

The ones I'm referencing there would be ones within the same size/intent as a Mora. Koster bushcraft, ML kephart, spyderco bushcraft(not a custom, I know), that sort of stuff. I suppose I should rephrase what I said. While I'm sure those blades 'can' handle rougher use than a Mora, for what I use a knife like that for(wrist thick batonning, woodwork, food prep etc.), a Mora handles it just fine. I love my more expensive blades, but it almost hurts me a little that a $15 knife can do the same things as they can ;).

I have a fair bit of field experience with Mora's actually, I've seen them fail time and again doing simple bushcraft tasks, even causing injury on one occasion. I just dont trust them. Sorry if you disagree, dude. I know a lot of guys swear by their Mora. I still own a couple but they stay in the food-prep box I take when truck camping.

Not 'disagreeing' per se, or questioning your experience, just curious if you'd had one break or fail somehow. I haven't, but I've heard of people who have.
 
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