Need help identify this sword

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Any ways my grandfather found a sword in woods back in green cove spring FL. I trying figure out where from and who made it seems to be a ceremonial sword i think.

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I trying figure out where from and who made it seems to be a ceremonial sword i think.

"Who made it?" is easy. Like it says on the blade, W. H. Horstmann & Sons. Horstmann was a major US swordmaker, and this version of the company name dates the sword to 1843-1863.

Looks like a cavalry sword, rather than a ceremonial sword. Somebody who knows more about US swords should be able to identify it. It's missing the grip and pommel, of course.
 
Model 1872 cavalry officer sword. The same pattern and variants also used by some fraternal societies.

Cheers

GC
 
Thats for info guys helps out alot, i thinking about cleaning it up and make a grip and pommel for it.

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It has a design on the blade anyone know how to get rust off without messing that up

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Try Flitz with a paper towel, scotchbrite pads are too abrasive.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
You need a solvent to soften the crusty rust and then bronze wool or something softer than steel. There is a good article and discussion here. http://www.swordforum.com/forums/showthread.php?78325-Sword-Care-amp-Conservation

I use a lot of different tools and materials in my own little shop of horrors. Something I have used with good results is Noxon. This liquid polish has oxalic acid, which helps loosen rust (aluminum oxide as the abrasive-shake well). Slather it on, let it set in wrapped paper towels, then an abrasive like a copper Chore Boy or blue scrubby pad. Those are found in most grocery stores. I have tried out a number of household and automotive solutions aside from the standard weapons items. Aluminum foil with oil or even water (I'm not much impressed but it works). Plastic wood and even metal picks.

Nevr-Dull, a great product. White spirits, cotton wadding, silica and clay.. Bon Ami cleansing powder, another favorite and very minimally abrasive. The blue scrubbies are very low abrasive.

Liquid-Wrench, on the harsher side but does bust rust (ventilate, wear gloves). Also on the more aggressive side (but messy) is 0000 steel wire wool and light oil). Picreator products include a de-corroder that needs tending while working it and like liquid-Wrench, will leave a gray tone that will need polishing.

Noxon and Simi-Chrome are on the milder side of abrasive polishes with Nevr-Dull

Some use yet harsher acids (nitric, etc) and even electrolysis. On the lighter side, even baking soda has a bit of abrasive property. I have used it in a slurry with water. So, so many options up to and including tooth paste (for that minty fresh taste). I do have an electric toothbrush I use for nooks and crannies but a regular one works as well. Plain old kerosene and #2/deisel are decent penetrants.

In the end, not exactly rocket science. We are just working with whatever materials we are dealing with. Dixie Gun Works has grips and butt/pommel parts for a cavalry type and may work out for this one. Looks like the tang would have to be extended to original length.

Good luck

GC
 
You need a solvent to soften the crusty rust and then bronze wool or something softer than steel. There is a good article and discussion here. http://www.swordforum.com/forums/showthread.php?78325-Sword-Care-amp-Conservation

I use a lot of different tools and materials in my own little shop of horrors. Something I have used with good results is Noxon. This liquid polish has oxalic acid, which helps loosen rust (aluminum oxide as the abrasive-shake well). Slather it on, let it set in wrapped paper towels, then an abrasive like a copper Chore Boy or blue scrubby pad. Those are found in most grocery stores. I have tried out a number of household and automotive solutions aside from the standard weapons items. Aluminum foil with oil or even water (I'm not much impressed but it works). Plastic wood and even metal picks.

Nevr-Dull, a great product. White spirits, cotton wadding, silica and clay.. Bon Ami cleansing powder, another favorite and very minimally abrasive. The blue scrubbies are very low abrasive.

Liquid-Wrench, on the harsher side but does bust rust (ventilate, wear gloves). Also on the more aggressive side (but messy) is 0000 steel wire wool and light oil). Picreator products include a de-corroder that needs tending while working it and like liquid-Wrench, will leave a gray tone that will need polishing.

Noxon and Simi-Chrome are on the milder side of abrasive polishes with Nevr-Dull

Some use yet harsher acids (nitric, etc) and even electrolysis. On the lighter side, even baking soda has a bit of abrasive property. I have used it in a slurry with water. So, so many options up to and including tooth paste (for that minty fresh taste). I do have an electric toothbrush I use for nooks and crannies but a regular one works as well. Plain old kerosene and #2/deisel are decent penetrants.

In the end, not exactly rocket science. We are just working with whatever materials we are dealing with. Dixie Gun Works has grips and butt/pommel parts for a cavalry type and may work out for this one. Looks like the tang would have to be extended to original length.

Good luck

GC
Awesome advice i was just thinking of the blue pads.

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