Need help picking the right throwing knives to get my girlfriend started throwing

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Lately my girlfriend and I have been throwing this: http://www.coldsteel.com/Product/80PGTK/G_I_TANTO_W_SECURE-EX_SHEATH.aspx

It's 12 inches long and a little over 10 oz in weight. She said it doesn't feel too heavy, but I'm now sure if anything heavier would be too much. We had been looking at these 2 knives: http://www.coldsteel.com/Product/80STSB/SURE_BALANCE_SPORT.aspx and http://www.coldsteel.com/Product/80STK12/SURE_FLIGHT_SPORT.aspx

I have a feeling the Sure Balance might be a bit too heavy, and that the Sure Flight might be too light. What is a decent weight for a throwing knife? I guess I should add that this is for a 5'3" 110 pound woman who found a 10.6 oz 12 inch knife to be "decent" for her.

I could use some input on what kind of stats I should look for in a knife, and I would also welcome suggestions on other knife options. Keep in mind that we have a budget of around 40$, and preferably we would get 3 knives, or at least 2. They don't have to come in a set.
 
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Well, I guess this section is pretty dead. My girlfriend and I decided on the Cold Steel Pro Flight Sport knives. 10.9 ounces and 14 inches long. There is sort of an elongated Sure Flight shape to them, and I hear that is a good knife shape. The weight is roughly the same as the GI Tanto she's been throwing, and they'll spin thrower which will be good for her from what I've gathered from watching her throw.
 
Someone will disagree I'm sure but I think that would be a good choice. My wife throws them very successfully. Easy to keep sharpened and virtually unbreakable. I do hate the odd high pitched rattle noise when they don't stick. If you take the grips off and but a layer of rubber cement or (my favorite) shoe goo on the metal, then screw the grips back on they don't make that sound anymore and you won't be replacing the scales anytime soon. (There needs to be a thin rubber washer to take up some of the vibration.)

I don't think the group is dead but you put in a couple of links that I think may violate the deal spotting rule. Anyway, you can offend folks very easily in this group so when links to products are posted, folks tend to shy away from responding.
 
We're here, but your requirements cut out many of the best knives you could pick. For $40 for a set of 3, all you're going to find is stuff made in china. Anything better is going to cost $40 each per knife minimum... the best are even more.

Enjoy the choices you make, they define your life.

- Hal Zucati
 
Someone will disagree I'm sure but I think that would be a good choice. My wife throws them very successfully. Easy to keep sharpened and virtually unbreakable. I do hate the odd high pitched rattle noise when they don't stick. If you take the grips off and but a layer of rubber cement or (my favorite) shoe goo on the metal, then screw the grips back on they don't make that sound anymore and you won't be replacing the scales anytime soon. (There needs to be a thin rubber washer to take up some of the vibration.)

I don't think the group is dead but you put in a couple of links that I think may violate the deal spotting rule. Anyway, you can offend folks very easily in this group so when links to products are posted, folks tend to shy away from responding.

How does a direct link to the manufacturer violate the deal spotting rule? I made a point not to link a third party site, and no one in their right mind would pay what they want on Cold Steel's own site when everywhere else has most stuff half price. I had to give an example of my options for an evaluation somehow.

Edit: I looked over the rules a second time and I most definitely did not break the deal spotter rule. Cold Steel is on the list of approved manufacturers and the links are to their own website.

We're here, but your requirements cut out many of the best knives you could pick. For $40 for a set of 3, all you're going to find is stuff made in china. Anything better is going to cost $40 each per knife minimum... the best are even more.

Enjoy the choices you make, they define your life.

- Hal Zucati

Yeah, I know the good stuff costs money, but there is no way I can afford such prices until I am out of college. I'm just scraping by and 40$ is actually a bit of a splurge right now.

My options were either to buy some cheaper cold steel knives or 1 single decent enough knife, but from what I understand it is easier to learn when you can throw multiple knives in a row instead of stopping to go get the knife after each throw.

I know that I get what I pay for. I prefer to pay more for something that is better and lasts longer when it comes to most things in life, but some times you have to settle for the time being. Eventually I'll get my girlfriend a nice knife set, but for now she is happy with what she has, though she is having a bit of difficulty getting used to knives 2 inches longer than what she was using. She just needs to build a bit more shoulder, hand, and arm muscle as she flops a bit in her throw with these longer knives. Also, her tendency to revert to throwing baseball style (upper arm out horizontal to her body) probably makes the issue seem worse than it really is. I'm working with her on that.


Edit: I also thought I should add that though I hear the other throwers from Cold Steel are made in China, these ones were made at their South Africa facility and it shows. Like their Machete's these knives have unevenly ground edges (one ground face is longer than the other and the point they meet is not centered) and they also cut out the knife blank at a not square angle. It has a slight slope to the side of the knife and I need to use my dremel to grind an uncomfortable edge on the grip. They throw very nicely and are evenly balanced about the middle of the knife. The slightly off cuts and grinds don't seem to throw the knife off, though they might not be as accurate as high end knives for highly skilled throwers looking to hit tiny targets and such.

Overall, they are a bit crude but functional, and with a little work on my part they will be fairly nice. They are made of fairly good steel for the price (better than low end stainless steel) , and have held up well so far. OH! I forgot to mention that these knives do not come sharp (which is a good thing I know)! I hear the other cold steel throwers come fairly sharp which is pretty stupid for throwing. I'm glad they got that right at least.
 
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I was not chastising you regarding your post earlier. Just saying that it is unclear (deal spotting rule) to me and I have seen folks get upset at almost nothing (particularly related to Cold Steel products which I use all the time) so I suspected that was hampering any answer to your question coming through. I am intimidated enough that if I want to make a reply that I "think" might ruffle anyone's feathers, I usually contact the poster directly by message and answer them either on the phone or by private e-mail. The last thing I wanted to do was chastise or drive any poster away! I received three of the 12" Sure flight Sport knives from S. Africa yesterday. They are ground a bit weird as you say but throw well and are easily touched up with a file. I ordered them because they were the only Cold Steel thrower pattern I don't already own. I threw them about an hour and they are great for no-spin.
 
I throw no spin, so for me weight, size and profile really does not matter. I can generally throw just about anything of any length and weight which is another advantage of this method. You may have to experiment a bit to find what works best for her. Personally I can afford to buy anything I want as far as throwing knives but I still frequently use several different CS products and I find them generally serviceable and reliable. I can only speak for myself but I throw purely for fun and enjoyment so I don't get wrapped around the axle on cost and quality issues. I can modify any blade to work effectively enough to be fun to throw........and that's what its about.
 
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Well, I guess this section is pretty dead. My girlfriend and I decided on the Cold Steel Pro Flight Sport knives. 10.9 ounces and 14 inches long. There is sort of an elongated Sure Flight shape to them, and I hear that is a good knife shape. The weight is roughly the same as the GI Tanto she's been throwing, and they'll spin thrower which will be good for her from what I've gathered from watching her throw.

Just because everyone does not jump when you ask a question does not mean this section is dead. Maybe the questions that you are asking have been asked over and over and people get tired of answering them. Feel free to use the search engine to see if you question or something similar has already been asked.

Cold Steel is a paid supporter to this forum. Deal spotting is mostly for outside dealers who do not support this forum and ebay links

Bobby Branton
Moderator
 
Just because everyone does not jump when you ask a question does not mean this section is dead. Maybe the questions that you are asking have been asked over and over and people get tired of answering them. Feel free to use the search engine to see if you question or something similar has already been asked.

Cold Steel is a paid supporter to this forum. Deal spotting is mostly for outside dealers who do not support this forum and ebay links

Bobby Branton
Moderator

Well, on every other forum I visit 5 days is a long time for a new thread to sit without any replies. Also, the Axe's section was much more responsive so I figured this section was kind of dead. I did forum searches but they didn't help much.
 
Well, this is not every other forum. Knife throwing is a really small in the grand scheme of things, so we do what we can do. There would have never been a forum if I had not started it. Just be thankful that it is here and enjoy what you can get out of it. Knife throwing is still filled with many myths and education is the key. That is what i have been doing for over 40 years and people still come up with crazy misconceptions about knife throwing. Hollywood has done us no favors. Consider that at least two generations of kids have been taught to fear knives and guns. Still lots of educating to do. It is better to be part of the solution than part of the problem.
All positive knife throwing related discussion is welcome.

Well, on every other forum I visit 5 days is a long time for a new thread to sit without any replies. Also, the Axe's section was much more responsive so I figured this section was kind of dead. I did forum searches but they didn't help much.
 
Well, this is not every other forum. Knife throwing is a really small in the grand scheme of things, so we do what we can do. There would have never been a forum if I had not started it. Just be thankful that it is here and enjoy what you can get out of it. Knife throwing is still filled with many myths and education is the key. That is what i have been doing for over 40 years and people still come up with crazy misconceptions about knife throwing. Hollywood has done us no favors. Consider that at least two generations of kids have been taught to fear knives and guns. Still lots of educating to do. It is better to be part of the solution than part of the problem.
All positive knife throwing related discussion is welcome.

Yeah, what I meant by dead was that it wasn't as active, not necessarily totally dead. I used the wrong term I guess. I was in a hurry to get the right knives not too late after our anniversary, and we had decided to start throwing only a week or less before that date lol!

The knives she is throwing might be too long for her. I think the extra leverage is working against her. They are 14 inches, balanced at the center, and 10.9 ounces each. I would have gone for the sure flight throwers that were 12 inches and 8.3 ounces, but we feared that they would be too light and her little mistakes when throwing would affect the knife too severely. The Sure Balance knives weighing over 12 ounces sounded too heavy, so we went with knives close to the weight she had been throwing, but just 2 inches longer. that 2 inches made a big difference in the force required to throw and handle them.

Also, would anyone here know if Knife throwing is harder to pick up than tomahawk throwing? I was surprised when I found that I could stick my new tomahawk perfectly almost every time right from the start having never thrown one before, though I had been throwing a machete of similar length for a little bit before I got it (maybe 3 hours total, with more success than with knives, but much worse than with the tomahawk). I'm not nearly half as good with knives.

I'm glad you are here to educate people Bobby. Just doing research on what knives to get I had to forgo relying on overall ratings on some products as many of them were down-rated by several people because the knives didn't come sharp and it took them "literally forever" to get them arm shaving sharp lol! Also, I will add that the current generation also gets a lot of bad info about throwing knives from the Call-Of-Duty series of games from what I hear. Too many people who play those games think they'll learn knife throwing as an awesome combat tactic LOL! I remember reading one manufacturer's description and how it said the bad guys would be terrified of you when they see you with whatever throwing weapon they were selling (I forget if it was a tomahawk or knife). I turned to my girlfriend and said "No, they'll just laugh and shoot you".
 
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I know you mentioned that she was spin throwing. Either is fun of course, but because range is much less an obstacle and with the knives she has I would get her to throw no-spin. It took about 30 minutes to teach my wife to stick them at 15 feet and less. Now we have to work on sighting a bit and (powering) speeding up her throws. But it is so much easier to teach someone who is succeeding than someone who is not. She still prefers her hawk. But at least she'll join me knife throwing now and with a good rate of success.

By the way, in answer to your hawk question. We have thrown hawks for over 35 years. Unless you are throwing one of those odd anime styled things with points all over it like the "black Ronin" thing, knives and axes are truly two different things. The only similarity I see is you can use the same targets, range and general muscle memory. With an axe you almost have to spin. The rotation time depends on the balance of your hawk and handle length. When my son was a little guy, we had a target in the back yard and he would start at about 6 feet and flip the heck out of the thing to speed the rotation. Then move back a foot or two and do it again. He would spend 30 minutes or so every day after school throwing and then throw with us in the evenings. Gradually he was able to throw from any distance up to about 40 feet and control the rotations. He was even able to make trick shots with half rotations and handle up shots or handle down sticks. I'm sure it took thousands of throws. But he disappeared at the Loch Norman Highland games for a couple of hours once when he was about 14 and returned with the NC Battle Axe competition trophy after splitting a card several times at different distances. The adults were not happy about being skunked by a kid but we still have that plaque somewhere. Having learned both, I find knife throwing more fun because you get to throw and stick more stuff before collecting them up. I don't throw my axes into each other! Some people do and then you could do more throwing and less collecting but I get 20 years out of a handle. Most folks get a few hundred throws.

I do have one weird, axe/knife thing that I throw no-spin and have tried to throw my other hawks that way from time to time. I am convinced it is almost undoable with a regular hawk.

My son is 36 now and a few years ago I found his prize winning hawk (really nothing special except that he spent hours of time with it) fitted it with a nice curly maple haft and returned it to him for his son to use:)
 
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