Need help with blade terminology

David1967

David1967

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My question is simple. How do you (English speaking people) call this little notch at the end of the blade. And is there another reason for it besides enabling easier resharpening??

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David

I wanted to post picture but somehow I cannot.

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Great question, David! I have been using that little notch for many years on all but my longer tacticals. It is indeed handy for sharpening so you don't run your stone up on the plunge line, but I've never known what it was actually called. I think it's too small to be a choil, but I'm not sure and would be grateful for an answer, so I don't have to continue answering, "it's a sharpening thingy."

BTW, it is not as some believe a way to mask uneven grinds. It is just as easy to spot an uneven grind at the bottom of that notch as at the top.

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I believe the proper term is joomanama. It is a member of the doot, whatamacallit, whatits, and dookhickey family.
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Glenn

 
Does anyone have that Ed Fowler knife book handy (I forgot the title)? I read it at the book store the other day (I know, I'm cheap) and he talks about that notch in that book in the section about his ideas on knife design. Anyway, I can't remember for sure if he names it, but he might.

I know, I am no help...but hey I'm bored.


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could someone post a pic of a knife with one of them notches. i think i know what your talking about, but not sure.
 
Well according to most of the knife publications I have read that little thingy as it was called is a Choil it's purpose is for the sharpening aspect of the knife I don't put them in many knives because they tend to get hung on thing's you may be cutting like cardboard ect.

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TBARK, the choil is where one files a Spanish notch to aid in sharpening. I may be wrong, but I always thought the choil was where the edge met the ricasso.

Jake
 
I've seen it called a Spanish notch too. I know I've heard some people say that it aids in stress reduction on the blade.
 
Magnum,

you can click on the link in my first post to see it. But Spanish notch sounds good to me. Now I have to find how it is called in our language.

David

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I hate to mess this up just as it was getting settled, but I think a Spanish Notch is something else. A Spanish Notch is a device in about the same location, which works with the guard to disarm an opponent. Look at the Bagwell Hells Belle and you'll see one. It may or may not be located exactly where we're talking, but is precisely positioned with respect to the guard. I'm not aware of Spanish Notch's being used on anything but fighting knives.

As for the stress relieving idea, almost anything that breaks into the contour of the blade actually creates a stress riser, which is where the blade will break if it gets severe lateral stresses. Rounded holes are better than sharp ones, but none are better still.

Guess I'll have to stick with "sharpening thingy".
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I've got Ed Fowler's "Knife Talk" book right here. On page 13 he pictures the notch and writes a brief description of it.

His poetic definition is almost too much!

Here's his "opinion" (which I personally disagree with) word for word:

"I personally consider a "nick" on the blade where the edge meets the Ricasso a serious design fault when a functional field knife is the goal."

That's it. So I guess it's up to us to come up with an official term. I vote for "transition notch".
 
Did Ed say why it was a "serious design fault"?

IMO, he's right only if the blade is severely stressed, which few blades are in normal use. I omit it on fighters, but use it on most other knives as a convenience for the user when sharpening.

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I don’t think it has a name.
A choil is not in the edge but behind it.
In folders it is at the very end of the edge.
The draw back on the sharpening thingy/notch/choil is that some materials will catch on it and hang up the cut.
Cloth , hide ect.
I used to put them on my knives but have stopped because of the hang up problem.
It does help with sharpening till you sharpen past it.

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Ed Fowler didn't say why it was a "serious design fault".

His comment was taken from a picture description, so he didn't go into details.

His writing style overall is very opionated. I found myself scanning most of the book to get to the informative parts.
 
Well I see ain't none of you brain sergeons figured out what to call that little notch yet

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