need info on Boker Model 501

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dj.garrison1945

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I ran this thread in the "General" section, but thought it might be good over here too. I have a "brand new", still in the box and original plastic wrapping, Boker Model 501. It has a VERY unique (IMO) blade shape (kinda' like a spade, as in "ace of spades") and a curved rubberized handle with an index finger depression and a heavy brass guard molded into the handle. The blade has BOKER, Soligen Germany on it, along with the "tree" logo in red. Boker says it was manufactured in the 1980s and they had NO current info as to its value or collectability. Anybody got a clue?
 
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Tobias,

Terry already posted in an earlier thread about Boker's history that there isn't much info about pre nowadays USA Boker manufacturing.

I found Boker USA dated back to early 1890-1910 just pre WO I. Is that correct? Was Boker Usa contracted firms overlooked by Germany and outsourced without storing at that time actual data about produced modelnumbers and first -last date of manufacturing these models?

http://jwissandsons.com/ to mid/end seventies???

what one contracted before jwissandsons ?

Coopertools??? till nowadays company??

Could you shed some light on this as there are quiet some people interested in old bokerdesigns past on from father to son.


Do you in germany have an old database about Bokers daughterfirms and there catalogues??

I know these are hard questions. Bare in mind that most old bokermodels just had a modelstamp and no serial numbers like fe on the clb's;). So people could probably only get a period timeframe on their old ones say fe ; your knive was manufactured between 62 -84?

I know these are some hard questions but i think I and a lot of people would be interested if any of you terry or other boker well informed guys (even retired old afficionados) could shed some light on the firms history?

I just found these old wissandsons files and found some info posted on bernard levines subforum which i'm not sure about its accuracy about early Boker daughters.


Greets Maarten
 
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dj.garrison1945 said:
I ran this thread in the "General" section, but thought it might be good over here too. I have a "brand new", still in the box and original plastic wrapping, Boker Model 501. It has a VERY unique (IMO) blade shape (kinda' like a spade, as in "ace of spades") and a curved rubberized handle with an index finger depression and a heavy brass guard molded into the handle. The blade has BOKER, Soligen Germany on it, along with the "tree" logo in red. Boker says it was manufactured in the 1980s and they had NO current info as to its value or collectability. Anybody got a clue?
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Please post a picture. Always interested to see pics. Lately i've seen an old muskrat double bladed slipjoint model 9572 with jigged bone according to the owner the original box read; Coopertoolsapexn.carolina. He bought it mid eighties.


There is a faq list on the top in this forum which gives direction lines on how to post pictures. I use photobucket.com myself. which is freeware. Sign in an account overthere. On your own account on the top you'll see a box for uploading pictures from your pc. Set it to 600x800 for websites. Choose the pic on your picalbum on your pc and upload . After uploading you'll see the pick on photobucket . Click the last link below the pick ; IMG Code. Then go to this side, search the thread on your last post click Submit Reply and click your right mouse button and scroll down to past and the pic should show up. ;)

On the value part. I guess you could search Ebay to look which this 501 model sell for..
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I found it!!!
It was in an old catalog. This model belongs to the "500" series, which consisted of 1 folding knife and five fixed blades. This is what was written on the catalog page:

"Heavy stainless steel blade, solid bronze guard, indestructible Delrin, first class leather sheath"

Regarding the price... I have seen older links, where people offered / sold these for 28 USD - 50 USD.
But the main thing is, when you want to sell it, if there is someone searching for this special knife, you can get a higher price. If someone just wants to have "knife" you certainly get a lower price.

If you want to collect the complete series... it would be a great and interesting hunt.

This is all I have.

Tobias
 
Thank you everyone. I will take a picture of the knife & sheath and post it tomorrow. I now know what the unusual substance of the handle is. Delrin, hmmmmm? For as low a price as it seems to carry, I guess I'll just keep it and hope I get a chance to skin a deer one of these days when we're all living in the forests 'cause the cities have all blown up.;)
 
History of Boker USA is something I have been trying to gather together
for quite a while now.
Cooper Tools Group was making the bokers in the 60's, then Wiss took over.
In 1984, Boker USA, as a component of the German Boker Company was started, and we have been doing it since then.
I cannot find any catalogs from either of the two previously mentioned companies, and anything from before then is impossible as well.
I keep digging, but Maarten is right, we can only provide a general time frame, and sometimes, not a very small one.
Thanks, Terry
 
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I found it!!!
It was in an old catalog. This model belongs to the "500" series, which consisted of 1 folding knife and five fixed blades. This is what was written on the catalog page:

"Heavy stainless steel blade, solid bronze guard, indestructible Delrin, first class leather sheath"

Regarding the price... I have seen older links, where people offered / sold these for 28 USD - 50 USD.
But the main thing is, when you want to sell it, if there is someone searching for this special knife, you can get a higher price. If someone just wants to have "knife" you certainly get a lower price.

If you want to collect the complete series... it would be a great and interesting hunt.

This is all I have.

Tobias
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tobias, could you be more specific on the catalogue date or info you found just for keeping my inquering mind satisfied..;)

The last one i was ranting about being dubious might have this delrin stuff allthough i don't know if this stuff shrinks /cracks with age combined with dry (arizona ) environments..;) It did not look like delrin to me however.. Bladestamp looked 1924ish handlestamp middle late 1960ish at earliest estimate.. So that's why dubious to me. Handle material looked like celuliod consistant with bladestamp but the inlayed handle stamp did not match.......

Still not happy for final judgement about age and so on that one...
;)



Delrin was synthazised in 1952 (DuPont) and patented 1956.Production started about 1960 lasting to today .
 
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