need opinion of Ken Onion Tortion opener vs Cammilus CUDA 'round disk' mvmt

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I cant get my hands on a Cammilus CUDA to try the action on its 'auto -like speed opening' vs the ken onoin Kershaw tortion opener that I have used (and am impressed with, but I need to void the warranty to make it comfortable due to the ridges that are a non-functionl part of the knife (according to Kershaw) but still there and scrape me hand deeply when I put ^left^ hand in pocket (yes, Im a leftie, please take this into considertation).
So, any advice on the CUDA 'thumb disc' vs the Ken Onion (nice, imho) assisted opener FOR lEFTIE would be appreciated.
Also, im looking at Sebenza *small) leftie as a clip on custom.
Please advise as to speed, durability, use, etc.
Respectfully,
Jim
 
I would go with Ken Onion - Kershaw Speed Safe opening system. It allows the fastest opening among non-autos.
Please visit my review on Ricochet here: http://www.bladeforums.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/001664.html
However if you need really fast hand opened knife for work and self defense think also about BM 730 Ares. My review on this knife you can find here: http://www.bladeforums.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/001605.html

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Sergiusz Mitin
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Lodz, Poland

[This message has been edited by Sergiusz Mitin (edited 05-23-2000).]
 
I'll second the Ares (for cool opening techniques, this is right up there). I would definitely not get the CUDA until they do something about the flimsy liners. I would almost never get a liner-lock, anyway, but that one's way over the line. I played with one of those 'Speed-Safe' knives, and I'm seriously considering getting one just for the 'neat-o' factor, but would take the Ares over that any day. Not only is the Ares fully ambidextrous (not just a leftie version, but a knife that is useable normally by either hand), but it is constructed far more solidly than the Speed-Safe I played with, and opens as fast as anyone could want when needed (but can be opened slowly when it's more appropriate to do so). Plus, it's lower maintenance (I've heard of torsion bars breaking), and incredibly comfortable to hold.

--JB

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One of my supervisors has a CUDA that was issued to him thru SPECWAR and since he can't sharpen it I have on a couple of ocassions. The opening is nice smooth quick quite. However, I own a Kershaw Blackout and mine is faster on the draw every single time and it is even twice as stealthy as the CUDA. All in all considering price and function I'll stick with my Blackout.

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The cuda is a nice knife and is fairly quick once you get the hang of the slide, but the kershaw has a great feel and is effortless to open. It is also cheeper.
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[This message has been edited by 2thehilt (edited 05-22-2000).]
 
I recommend the Kershaw. It is easy to open with the left forefinger after some practice. Be careful though, I got carried away with my first Ken Onion Kershaw and flicked it until the Torsion Speed Safe broke. No abuse, just kept opening it repeatedly. Kershaw was awesome enough to replace it for free. Good luck!
 
I own a CUDA and a Kershaw Avalanche. I did not have any particular problems with CUDA's liner lock, but it does not seem super sturdy. Avalanche is definitely a quicker opener, but it is a smaller knife and CUDA is not too far behind once You get the hang of it.

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If you can stand the wait, Think about opting for the Kershaw/Onion Boa. It has a flipper on the back instead of a thumbstud, just like the Carson M-16 and thr CRKT clone. It is also 3.5" in bladelenght and has the Speed-safe system. I have worked the prototype and can say it absolutely the fastest, even counting autos! Also, it is totally ambidextrous and can be flipped open without an inertial flick. tTat could be critical in a situation where you need a blade fast but are in a confined space or have been grabbed by an attacker in a bear hug. The production version will have a thumblock to minimize the chance for accidental opening or closing.
I have had a Cuda and did not like it a bit. The button hangs up on stuff and it is impossible to open with the off hand. Opening to a reverse grip is also very difficult. And the thing weighs a ton.
Try the Boa. It should be out in a week or 2.
If production quality and performance is even close to the prototype,your wait will be well rewarded.
David

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[This message has been edited by davidb415 (edited 05-26-2000).]
 
I have been carrying a Onion/Kershaw Random Task for a few months now, and its a great folder. The fit is as good as any production folders I have seen, and it opens WAY fast..

Trace Rinaldi
 
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